Slowpokeking Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I really like the story but it went down since level 50. Too many third faction mess since the ops/fp are being released, sure it's ok to have some but the main plot should stick to the war between the Republic and Empire. But we didn't see too much process. And why everything went the republic way? Ok Malgus and Severin's betrayal, it's not good for Empire but acceptable and fit Malgus' character. However the dreadmasters betrayed as well? The Empire already lost too much, many council members, Corellia, the intelligence disbanded, the Emperor went silent, his children defeated . Then more pub victory in the new novel, Gravus was turned into a moron and Karrid got killed as well. Edited November 26, 2012 by JovethGonzalez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMB Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Well, I suppose they're saving the main Empire vs Republic story additions for new planets they plan to expand with in the future. And as far as the Empire losing so much... well, they are the ones fated to lose the war in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Well, I suppose they're saving the main Empire vs Republic story additions for new planets they plan to expand with in the future. And as far as the Empire losing so much... well, they are the ones fated to lose the war in the end. Well that and all the in fighting in the Sith Empire going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Well, I suppose they're saving the main Empire vs Republic story additions for new planets they plan to expand with in the future. And as far as the Empire losing so much... well, they are the ones fated to lose the war in the end. But it's too early to end the story with a landslide win. And Like Palpatine said, "Once more, the Sith will rule the galaxy!" So it's not really settled. Edited November 22, 2012 by Slowpokeking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeters Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Good thing there hasn't been a landslide victory that ended the story yet, then. Edited November 22, 2012 by Bleeters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Empire's losses are done on purpose. According to encyclopedia the Republic is winning the war but the Empire is close to the key of achieving a victory. I wonder what is the "key" which will turn the tide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Empire's losses are done on purpose. According to encyclopedia the Republic is winning the war but the Empire is close to the key of achieving a victory. I wonder what is the "key" which will turn the tide. Darth Revan? Something in the Foundry? Star Cabal's codex? I checked the encyclopedia yes it did say the key to victory is at hand, but the new novel still didn't say a thing about it. Edited November 23, 2012 by Slowpokeking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmarshal Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 And as far as the Empire losing so much... well, they are the ones fated to lose the war in the end. And yet there's over 1,000 years of time after the games start point unexplored by the expanded universe. It doesn't make any since to have the Empire lose this early when we have time for a lot more adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollokdamus Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) And yet there's over 1,000 years of time after the games start point unexplored by the expanded universe. It doesn't make any since to have the Empire lose this early when we have time for a lot more adventure. This. Anything can happen. The Empire can even conquer the entire Republic, execute the leftover citizens and military forces, banish its Jedi guardians from the Galaxy and start its own reign of terror, which will last for the next couple of hundreds of years. And then, slowly, it can be reformed back to the state of the Republic via a chain of micro-revolutions or something. That's one of the major reasons of devs choosing this particular time period - to have a relative freedom in order to create their own story. On topic, the current state of TOR end-game (in terms of story) is very similar to classic WoW. In general, the storyline is not really moving anywhere. All we are doing now is disposing of some local threats for both factions here and there. Edited November 23, 2012 by Trollokdamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeters Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The Empire are currently losing. This is not the same thing as having lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 The Empire are currently losing. This is not the same thing as having lost. The Empire already lost many cool figures, not sure can they create some equally good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElyonRand Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The Empire are currently losing. This is not the same thing as having lost. Personally, I think it's closer to a draw at the moment. Empire has had successes on several planets, are holding the Republic at a stand still on a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausstig Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Personally, I think it's closer to a draw at the moment. Empire has had successes on several planets, are holding the Republic at a stand still on a few others. where? The only imp victory is Taris. They lose on Balmora, Corellia and Quesh as wel as maybe Voss. So what's left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardim Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) where? The only imp victory is Taris. They lose on Balmora, Corellia and Quesh as wel as maybe Voss. So what's left? This. Pretty much every major victory is going to the Republic right now Edited November 24, 2012 by Ardim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorCasan Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well, I suppose they're saving the main Empire vs Republic story additions for new planets they plan to expand with in the future. And as far as the Empire losing so much... well, they are the ones fated to lose the war in the end. In perhaps who know how many years, NOT THIS SOON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varium Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 where? The only imp victory is Taris. They lose on Balmora, Corellia and Quesh as wel as maybe Voss. So what's left? eh? Quesh is still a warzone and not decided at all, Voss will probably never align with anybody which is told in IA story where The Three say that a prophecy tells them not to join with Empire or Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollokdamus Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 where? The only imp victory is Taris. They lose on Balmora, Corellia and Quesh as wel as maybe Voss. So what's left? This is a large-scale war. Hundreds of planets are involved, and we have no info on the situation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolaf Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 From the trailers i always thought the Empire was winning, dissapointing to see the ulitmate dark force we were warned about get thier butts handed to them so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenrik Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I always saw the Empire as being presented as winning by default. So many times the Rep is defending itself from some attack and feeling like they're just keeping their noses above the water. I know, key figures and all, but still, I always felt like I was fighting a losing battle when I played Rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausstig Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 eh? Quesh is still a warzone and not decided at all, Voss will probably never align with anybody which is told in IA story where The Three say that a prophecy tells them not to join with Empire or Republic. The pubs kill the Imperial leader on Quesh, the main imperial quest giver, so that sounds like a victory to me. Ok yeah, no one wins Voss, Prof Walsh, said the JC got ride of the imperials, but I see now he was wrong. Although a lightside JC can get them to 'think' about an alliance with the pubs, So lets say a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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