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Please allow direct purchase for Rodian from Nighlife event during this years event


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I know he will be available next year for direct purchase from the golden certificate vendor but it would be great if he would be added to the vendor already during this years event.

 

Make it expensive if necessary for example 100 or 500 golden certificates. But at least then people know they can work towards the companion by collecting slowly the golden certificates but right now people with bad luck might not get him even if they spend a lot of time and credits.

 

I just think it would be less frustrating and people would not need to wait a whole year until the companion is available for purchase.

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If you are playing the slots "correctly"**, it would take just about as long to get the Rodian by winning GCs as it does now anyway - especially if it took 100+ GCs.

Also, buying the Rodian by "direct purchase" with GCs is not quite the same as buying it with credits. You still have to play the slots to get the GCs.

 

** Play the Smuggler's slots until you get the "Feeling Lucky" buff, and only then play the Kingpin slots. Also keep in mind that the FL buff only lasts for so long, and is cancelled when you win something special (GC, CMC, mount, companion). When it runs out or is cancelled, rinse and repeat with the Smuggler's slots.

 

A good time to play the slots is while waiting for Group Finder to pop.

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If you are playing the slots "correctly"**, it would take just about as long to get the Rodian by winning GCs as it does now anyway - especially if it took 100+ GCs.

Also, buying the Rodian by "direct purchase" with GCs is not quite the same as buying it with credits. You still have to play the slots to get the GCs.

 

** Play the Smuggler's slots until you get the "Feeling Lucky" buff, and only then play the Kingpin slots. Also keep in mind that the FL buff only lasts for so long, and is cancelled when you win something special (GC, CMC, mount, companion). When it runs out or is cancelled, rinse and repeat with the Smuggler's slots.

 

A good time to play the slots is while waiting for Group Finder to pop.

 

Thank you but I know how to play the slot machines - I am doing it just like you described. But still - it is RNG and even with the lucky buff the odds aren't really good. You can get him by playing 5 minutes and with a single kingpin coin or you might end up spending 10 millions or more and several hours and still not get him. Happened to me for example last year with the Gamorean companion - I gave up then and purchased him this year.

 

The golden certificates seem to drop frequently - yes, it is RNG too so some might get more and some less for the same credit amount/coins. But you have a higher chance to get them and I don't think people struggle much to get those certificates.

 

If I know I need 100 certificates to get the Rodian I have a goal that I know I can achieve and I can estimate how much time/coins it will take me. But just hoping to get the main prize jackpot is more frustrating because I don't know if or when I will get it - maybe never.

 

Anyway, I don't really need the companion, it is just nice to have. But it would make the event less frustrating and more fun for me at least. I don't know if others agree.

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No one beats Treek as a companion so I'm not even worried about it. I have one character left that has slot machine tokens to spend, other than that, could care less. Never tried it before so I decided to try it this year.

 

I am very glad that they will finally check and rebalance companions across the board. I love Treek, but she is virtually unusable as a companion due to her bad combat performance.

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Thank you but I know how to play the slot machines - I am doing it just like you described.

Well, I recently went through a period of playing the slot machines. I spent about 9-10 million credits on Kingpin chips (I had the credits and didn't want do it the slow way using only Kingpins won from the Smuggler's slots.)

In any case, the point is that during that time I got about 70 GCs, 18-20 CMC, 5 or 6 speeders and 2 Companions**. If I had had to get 100 GCs for the companion, I'd still not have it. Instead, I have 2.

 

** My original aim was to get 1 companion, but then I decided to get a second one for my other main. The first one was after only about 3 mill in KCs, the further 6-7 mill was to get the second one.

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Well, I recently went through a period of playing the slot machines. I spent about 9-10 million credits on Kingpin chips (I had the credits and didn't want do it the slow way using only Kingpins won from the Smuggler's slots.)

In any case, the point is that during that time I got about 70 GCs, 18-20 CMC, 5 or 6 speeders and 2 Companions**. If I had had to get 100 GCs for the companion, I'd still not have it. Instead, I have 2.

 

** My original aim was to get 1 companion, but then I decided to get a second one for my other main. The first one was after only about 3 mill in KCs, the further 6-7 mill was to get the second one.

 

I already spent 5 million credits (only using the green smuggler chips) and haven't got the companion yet - only 4 speeders and certificates. Last year I spent 10 million and did not get the companion either.

 

So - just because you were lucky to get the companion with 3 million credits does not mean everyone does.

 

This is what I mean - if I spend for example 10 million credits and still don't have the companion I would at least have golden certificates that I could use to buy the companion if he was already available at the event vendor.

 

Even if I don't have enough golden certificates - I know I can earn the missing number of certificates but compared to that I don't know if or when I would get the companion from the slot machines as I might end up with really bad luck and don't get him even with 20 millions or more.

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Pfft. I got the companion after spending 800K on green chips, and had chips left over. And enough GCs to get a full set of the Kingpin armour with a couple left over.

 

It's worth noting that 75000 each for kingpin chips is a very expensive way of acquiring them. That 75K will get you 37 green chips with 1K credits left over, and you should be able to get at least a dozen kingpin chips, probably more, from them.

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Pfft. I got the companion after spending 800K on green chips, and had chips left over. And enough GCs to get a full set of the Kingpin armour with a couple left over.

 

It's worth noting that 75000 each for kingpin chips is a very expensive way of acquiring them. That 75K will get you 37 green chips with 1K credits left over, and you should be able to get at least a dozen kingpin chips, probably more, from them.

 

I know that is why I play the smuggler slot machines and don't buy the kingpin coins.

 

And I know that there are many lucky people out there who got one or more companions in a very short time and with few credits. But there are people like me who spent hours and millions and still don't have him.

 

This is why I think it would be less frustrating to have the companion directly at the event vendor.

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I already spent 5 million credits (only using the green smuggler chips) and haven't got the companion yet - only 4 speeders and certificates. Last year I spent 10 million and did not get the companion either.

You spent 5 million on just Smuggler's chips!!? :eek:

The amounts I listed were for Kingpin chips - 20 KCs for 1.5 million credits. I only used about 100 Smuggler's chips the whole time and they were left over from last year. (And because the SCs drop as loot in-game, I still have about 180 left.)

If you're going to spend that much, you could at least greatly reduce the time it takes, and your chances of winning, by buying Kingpin chips.

 

So - just because you were lucky to get the companion with 3 million credits does not mean everyone does.

Obviously not - even in the part of my post that you quoted I said that it cost me about 3 mill for the 1st one and an additional 6-7 mill for the second one. (That's 9-10 mill in total.)

 

I know that many people suggest that you just buy Smuggler's chips and get all your Kingpin chips from the Smuggler's slots, but judging by the amounts that people spend, it doesn't seem like such a good idea.

 

I was buying Kingpin chips in lots of 20 (1.5 mill). When I'd get the "Feeling Lucky" buff, I could usually keep playing the Kingpin slots until I won something - rather than having to stop when the 1 or 2 KC I'd won ran out, or playing the Smuggler's slots for hours, and hours to accumulate more KCs.

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If you are playing the slots "correctly"**, it would take just about as long to get the Rodian by winning GCs as it does now anyway - especially if it took 100+ GCs.

 

What do you mean "just about as long"? How would you know that? I could play 1.000 hours and still not get the Rodian. I might get it in 1 hour, too. RNG is RNG.

 

In any case, the point is that during that time I got about 70 GCs, 18-20 CMC, 5 or 6 speeders and 2 Companions**.

 

Good for you. The well-spirited fairy of luck was obviously on your side.

 

Here is my "luck":

 

First I went the kingpin + lucky buff way, because I didn't want to spend hundreds of hours at the event again. Bought 10 x 10 kingpins. That's 7.5 million credits. The result was devastating: 5 cartel market certs and 6 golden certs.

 

Then I switched back to the cheaper smugglers tokens only-method. I eventually stopped tracking my expenses and wins. I must have spent about 3 million credits so far on smuggler tokens. I always buy a stack of 100. This usually yields between 15 and 20 kingpin tokens for me.

 

With these tokens I won a couple dozen golden certs and 7 more cartel market certs. Also twice the speeder. No companion.

 

The point is: RNG is RNG.

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I know that is why I play the smuggler slot machines and don't buy the kingpin coins.

 

And I know that there are many lucky people out there who got one or more companions in a very short time and with few credits. But there are people like me who spent hours and millions and still don't have him.

 

This is why I think it would be less frustrating to have the companion directly at the event vendor.

 

Yeah I guess some people don't realize that others have bad RNG luck. Just because he/she got super lucky, doesn't mean everyone does.

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I see nothing wrong with a direct purchase option of some kind, considering that the main point of this event people always bring up is it being a "credit sink." And a direct purchase would still be a credit sink in one way or another.

 

Forcing you to forever gamble for some of the rewards (or wait a year I guess?), on principle, seems cruel. I'm not sure there's a greater purpose in terms of game design, unless the point is to teach you that gambling is addictive and cruel in RL. Perhaps the point is just to hook you into next year's event, so that they don't have to make as much new desirable stuff (counting on a percentage to come back for next year). Not what I'd call a "good" reason, but could be an explanation for it as a design choice.

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Finally really tried to play Nightlife Casino event a couple of weeks ago. Got Vector vehicles (x2) the first day, but no Rodian.

 

Still, had the time and the credits to keep collecting GCs to finally get the Gammorean Bodyguard character on one of my characters.

 

Played a little bit after, but not interested in spending more in-game credits when the casino got tedious after awhile.

 

I do agree that playing while waiting for the ground finder queue is a must, specifically for PVP / Starfighter. It is fairly easily to get selected for flashpoints right now (or always).

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I know he will be available next year for direct purchase from the golden certificate vendor

 

Was this stated somewhere? I keep seeing people propagate this myth as though it's fact. It took FIVE events (2014 - 2019) for the Gamorrean to be put on the vendor, so I'm not sure why they would just up and put the Rodian on the vendor on his second go around.

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Was this stated somewhere? I keep seeing people propagate this myth as though it's fact. It took FIVE events (2014 - 2019) for the Gamorrean to be put on the vendor, so I'm not sure why they would just up and put the Rodian on the vendor on his second go around.

 

indeed, it's not a safe bet and rather unlikely. The rodian companion will only be added to the prize vendors when they decide to create a completely new jackpot prize for the kingpin slot machines.

 

Apart from that I actually don't mind that there are rewards you can only get with a very lucky jackpot. You can buy some nice stuff with the golden certificates and if you really want a companion, you can get the bodyguard for all your chars. This is a casino event after all and really nothing more than a big credit and time sink. I'm pretty sure they did not add a new achievement for the rodian companion as not to incense the achievement hunters.

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Was this stated somewhere? I keep seeing people propagate this myth as though it's fact. It took FIVE events (2014 - 2019) for the Gamorrean to be put on the vendor, so I'm not sure why they would just up and put the Rodian on the vendor on his second go around.

I'm pretty sure it was just two events, though. Iirc the Gamorrean was a new drop in 2017, that's when the Rancor could be bought for the first time. :t_cool:

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My first NS Nightlife was in 2017. I played enough to earn all of the achievements except for breaking a slot machine.

 

Last year and this year, I played with a fixed budget of 2 million credits. This year has been my unluckiest so far. I burned through all my chips and didn't get a single kingpin jackpot. No Rodian. No extra Vectron BWL Wraiths (which get tossed anyway). Still no broken slot machine, either. I think the final haul this year was 15 cartel market certificates and 47 golden certificates.

 

I understand that this is designed as a credit sink, but I think it's reasonable to make the rewards achievable without playing like it's our job for the whole 6 weeks or so that the event typically runs.

 

(Breaking the slot machine should not be the rarest possible outcome. You don't GET anything other than an event achievement.)

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(Breaking the slot machine should not be the rarest possible outcome. You don't GET anything other than an event achievement.)

 

Not entirely correct. With the achievement you also get the "Unlucky" legacy title, which is very cool and probably the reason why the chance is so low. It is actually the most "useful" thing for me personally out of all the things you can get from the Nightlife event.

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Not entirely correct. With the achievement you also get the "Unlucky" legacy title, which is very cool and probably the reason why the chance is so low. It is actually the most "useful" thing for me personally out of all the things you can get from the Nightlife event.

 

Ah, I didn't realize that because I generally don't use titles at all.

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Not entirely correct. With the achievement you also get the "Unlucky" legacy title, which is very cool and probably the reason why the chance is so low. It is actually the most "useful" thing for me personally out of all the things you can get from the Nightlife event.

I dunno, when I got the Gamguard two years ago, it let me clear out a metric carpton of companion gifts from my inventory on that character. Um. Enough to get Piggy to Influence Rank 22 and clear out about half her inventory slots. That was useful.

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Was this stated somewhere? I keep seeing people propagate this myth as though it's fact. It took FIVE events (2014 - 2019) for the Gamorrean to be put on the vendor, so I'm not sure why they would just up and put the Rodian on the vendor on his second go around.

 

Sorry, my bad. I thought we had always in the following year the companion prize available. So I do hope they will put the Rodian next year on the event vendor but you are right, maybe they won't.

 

But as the thread title mentions, I hope they put the main prize companions to the event vendor as soon as possible and that we don't have to wait a full year or longer to purchase it.

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indeed, it's not a safe bet and rather unlikely. The rodian companion will only be added to the prize vendors when they decide to create a completely new jackpot prize for the kingpin slot machines.

 

Apart from that I actually don't mind that there are rewards you can only get with a very lucky jackpot. You can buy some nice stuff with the golden certificates and if you really want a companion, you can get the bodyguard for all your chars. This is a casino event after all and really nothing more than a big credit and time sink. I'm pretty sure they did not add a new achievement for the rodian companion as not to incense the achievement hunters.

 

True, I don't mind spending the money and for the cartel market certificates alone it was worth it. But it is kind of frustrating to spend hours on this rather boring event and you may still don't get the main prize companion and you don't know how much time and credits you need to spent to get it.

 

I finally got him yesterday. It took me 6 millions credits on smuggler chips and 15 million on kingpin chips. I only played the kingpin machines with the lucky buff. And I got 10 speeders.

 

I don't think I will participate in the event the next year, just get some new stuff (if available) from the event vendor with the certificates that I have now.

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