So my pet chimpanzee and I are looking for a new PVP guild to play with. We're both recent 55s. I have a vengeance juggernaut (though I'm willing to gear up immortal or play rage) that's full obroan with blue augments and my friend is a merc healer that's just finishing acquiring obroan. We're also levelling up alts--my simian friend is levelling a sorcerer to either heal or dps, and I'm levelling up an assassin. We are not serial killers in real life. We do have notable prior MMO experience. We came from a guild on wow that peaked at a rank of US#72 for pve and frankly really enjoy the warzones this game has to offer. We like listening to Passenger of **** while crushing nerds under our feet. Sometimes i feel like when I play star wars i think that im playing against like 50 year old men who saw a new hope when it first came out and immediately their childhood development froze right there and they were unable to progress from that point on becoming emotionally stunted and ever since their entire life has been star wars and they arent actually very good at video games and in their advanced age they have lost their manual dexterity and their reaction time has dropped off but they're having fun because they're playing the same class that luke skywalker would have been and so they like to zoom in on their character and breathe heavily while imagining how cool they are while i manage to simply walk up to the objective node and click on it and get off a full 8 second channel and it never once crosses their mind to stop me. You can contact me on Kerrath or Ellouelle on imperial side and Amielle on republic side. You can contact my cro-magnon life companion on Adilah or Nethazia on imperial side and Irasa on republic side.

if by 'a joke' you mean 'they dont really have any' then yeah you're right. even mining is a part of the pvp system in eve. eve's a pretty fun game and it's my primary mmo. the raw amount of balance and realism in the game is unparalleled by any other game. i just play swtor between undocks, because sometimes nullsec gets a little quiet.

http://www.eveonline.com/ are you one of those kinds of people who think that if you grind up materials that it makes those materials free

To be quite honest with you, there will not be a reliable means of proving anything in that way. At best, you're going to have anecdotal evidence which is not revered for its accuracy, nor very valuable. The value of crit will rise due to the small time frame (uptime, etc), but the only way to determine whether a certain crit value is worth it is to plot things out. And yes, I mean "determine a short rotation, then determine a statistically probable damage result from it".

no, i was expecting that they'd have a reasonable, not-exorbitant price, and i was expecting that i'd be able to contribute to pvp without having a wall sticking out in front of me, arbitrarily placed there between levelling pvp and capped pvp. id est: levelling bgs - reasonably balanced, you can jump in and play at any time. capped bgs - bolster does nothing useful

that sounds like a major pain in the ***. now i'm struggling to think of a justification to bother with it.

So, I just got my shadow to 55. I went out of my way to grind enough warzones to have enough commendations to afford an almost-full set of partisan gear before dinging 55. The rest of the slots were filled with basic gear. That is to say that I have full 63s to 66s in every slot. However, relative to sub-55 pvp, 55 pvp I feel completely worthless outside of maybe spamming taunts (no, i'm not tank spec, btw) because i barely do any damage to people, and I get crushed quick. However, I'm not using augments, because I looked and the price of adding an augment to a piece of gear would cost me ~80k for the kit, 36k to put the kit in, and then 15k for the augment itself, which would be fine, except for the part where I need to do this for all 14 slots. I'm presuming that if I get augments for every slot, that my stats will rise dramatically, and pvp will be less of a waste of time. However, I don't have 1.8 mil to just dump on augments. 1.8 mil, as far as i can tell, is a **** ton of money. Am I thinking about this wrong? Is there a cheaper way to get gear that already has augmentation slots in it?

It's really hard, because traditionally, Jedi are portrayed as ascetics who are trained and raised outside of the world, so they have no worldly experience, and are actually extremely naive in the matters of ethics, because they're taught basically to blindly follow the rules. The same goes for Sith, naturally, given that they're comic relief rebels who do everything exactly the opposite of jedi. In the real world, "good" and "evil" are illusory and hard to define. A grey jedi would be a jedi who was philosophically aware that the world is in shades of grey and not just black and white, who wasn't a ********, but wasn't selfless either. Of course, that wouldn't make for a very exciting story character, because such a jedi would make neither a good hero nor a good villain. He'd just fade into the background and likely not get involved in the problems of the galaxy. That is to say, no **** you can't think of any grey jedi.

if its any consolation it looks really comfortable to me.

Viable alternative options: 1) Stop caring and move on. 2) Do we really need a second option? If you're distraught by verbal abuse, you probably deserved it, because if it wasn't true, it wouldn't bother you.

this. i don't see any bullying going on in the chat.

You say that like as if SWTOR's game design isn't completely dominated by casual altoholic mindset with hardcore gamers being pretty much left in the dust.

In the real world, fights don't happen on Final Destination with items turned off, with Fox as the only selectable character. Real competition occurs when you elevate yourself to the level of your enemies, rather than when you whine for your enemies to descend to your level. Perhaps you should try going into a fight with a balanced, solid class comp and use voice chat to organize yourself? The gear grind isn't particularly long in this game, by the way.

I didn't see the part where tanks were deprived of money. Do you use your professions and such?

internet bullying in a nutshell: http://i.imgur.com/5pFah.jpg On the internet, you can turn the computer off, or ignore the offender, or any number of alternatives. In real life, you can't necessarily escape a bully's torment. It's not really fair to make a comparison.