I think this describes this thread quite well- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Prp615mmDk&feature=related

I personally blame people like Exphryl. He takes a video "compilation" of all his best burst situations over the course of a few days, edits them into a 7 minute clip, and every drooling retard on this forum goes into epileptic seizures over the "constant reality" of vanguard/powertech burst damage. Maybe I finally have a reason to log in again. I can FRAPS a warzone where all that "insane burst dmg" happens maybe 2 times in a whole civil war and the rest of the time I'm getting 1.8k dmg HiBs.

Thanks for reinforcing my beliefs that no matter how much time, effort, or thought I put into a post, the general level of stupidity on these forums makes the whole thing as useful as pounding one's head against their computer desk. I'd waste less time and contribute just as much to these special needs marathons if i just posted sounds, so without further ado- aaargg blah bing zippitdy diannnggg whizzz woooppp

Jesus, a bunch of einsteins in this community. Ok, if the moons and stars align, every attack is a critical hit, and the powertech/vanguard uses every single offensive cooldown as a biochem user, they do 20k single target damage in what? Seven or eight clicks? Yeah, because every powertech and/or vanguard has that critical rate cube that brings them to 100% rating, and as a side effect is immune to damage and stuns during this duration. Let's apply this genius stars and moons aligning crap to another class I'm familiar with, the Focus Guardian. 2k saber throw to start the fight 1k damage on force leap to close gap Force Exhaustion, which slows the target from 60% movement speed to 10%, POSSIBLY ticking for 1k a tick over six seconds, with the last tick doing 2k. Force Sweep for an AoE 5-6k damage. 4k blade storm. 5k dispatch. Look at that, over 20k damage in seven GCDs, Guardian OP. Nerf nerf nerf. Now let's apply this genius logic to yet another class, because all you balance professionals probably still don't get the picture. Remember, we're whining about every single thing being a stars and moons aligned critical hit here. 4k Shoot First 1k Flachette round DoTs 5k back blast 2k pistol whip 2k sucker punch (proc) 2k sucker punch (proc) sabo charge 2k sucker punch + 3k sabo detonation Nerf NERF NERF SCOUNDRELS!! Scoundrel OP! Bottom line, we could play this all day long. Is a class OP when it uses every single offensive cooldown, is blessed by the RNG gods, and ignored? Of course it is, everyone is alloted 15 seconds of OP time every 3 minutes assuming the enemy team is stupid enough to let them free cast. Of course some following 20 pages of braindead nonsense will persist with your average joe schmoe popping in to voice his "I agree, got killed by one, OP" comments. If this were my forum, I'd be nerfing stupid people's posting rights.

Those slave drivers over in the GW2 forums seem to be pulling it off. So are those Nazi supervisors over in the D3 forums.

25 people on my entire server now Rep side. Is it sad that I'm about to go fire up Diablo 2 to enjoy some GAMING until I go to work because I can't get that from SWTOR right now on my dead server?

I love the people in this thread who insist that we're "demanding children" because we'd like cross server ques, server merges, or character transfers. God forbid I pay 60$ and then 15$ a month to be able to enjoy the base premise of the game and complain when it's not there because my server is dead. I really love the people who say "bugs and crap happens, get over it". Sure, if it was a buy to play game, I'd dig this attitude. If it was Free to play with an in game cash shop, I'd dig it. But we're talking about a game that required as much money upfront as a full release game, PLUS a subscription fee. I'm sure people have a right to be a little ticked if the game doesn't even offer the minimal experience required to be considered a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG, instead of just an Online RPG. Lastly, I love the folks who were lucky enough to roll on a standard, high, or full pop server telling those of us on a ghost town to buck up, reroll, or shut up. When you have 4 toons above level 40, two of which are Battlemaster rated and geared 50s, and a legacy level at 27, the last thing on earth you want to do is go through the same freaking grind for the fifth time to experience what you should have considering the money you spent in the first place.

I really wish we could get the same level of feedback for actual issues that the community is concerned about that we do for "closed thread" notifications, not that those seem like some sort of outsourced copy and paste job anyway. I'm just continually astonished, on a personal level, by how little the developers actually care to respond. There's a "weekly" post about maybe 6 developer responses, 4 of which happen to be mostly irrelevant regarding the major concerns of the community, and we're supposed to feel like our 15$ a month plus 50$ to get into the subscription game is worth it on a feedback level? How many dev posts have addressed server transfers? Dying server populations? Whether transfers to populated servers will be free or cost even more $$$? Server merges? Cross server ques? If there's any input on these subjects, it's vague to the point of being worthy of political, and lacks any sort of "dev to user relationship" vibe. It's almost like there's a rolodex of excuses and answers issued to anyone from Bioware that posts on this forum. D3 forums are a pretty good clear-cut counter to what's the "accepted norm" here on the SWTOR forums. Devs respond, moderators guide discussions instead of mindlessly closing them. How long will it be before this thread is locked? I give it five minutes.

Yeah, I have 2 battlemaster 50s and two lvl 40ish alts. I'm not going to continue to pay 15$ a month for the next 3-4 months waiting for something to do with those characters. Might as well take a vacation until bioware pulls their head out of their, and use that money to buy diablo III.

Ouch. Ok, both our servers suck. What if they merge our servers together? Do you guys have an abundance of noob rep players? We don't need anymore of those.

^^ Community's answer

You have 76? Lucky you. We have 40 total on The Deadweight (aptly named). Our 4 man stopped queing for wz as a group because we couldn't form a group fast enough to get in the only pvp match that's being alternated every 15-20 minutes. LOL

whoa slow down, this half baked legacy crap is why we don't have cross server warzone ques, rated war zones, or server transfers... It's gotta be important, mmk?

The same BS logic used to justify everything else in this game that's jacked up by all the "glass is 10% full" guys on this forum. This game will be great in a year when they either iron out the details, or make it free to play.

I've heard of you before, or at least your guild. I'm in Balance on the deadweight, a few of my guildies want to reroll on whatever server you guys are on so that we're not the best game in town on repub side. God it would be nice to have another repub guild that could give us competition. here's a vid of us just goofing off for fun because we can't find a challenge on our dead server. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIIUwfCZz8 The guy filming, Hespera, runs a balance shadow. I'm Irish, the assault vanguard.