Though I suggest waiting on it, tbh. Vaylin's going to make a notable rise, given Arcann's hints that she's only barely scratching the surface of her full power.

As far as the Eternal Family goes and what not, Vaylin is honestly probably more powerful than Arcann, based on encyclopedic medium, Valkorion hype, and her feats early on. Arcann would house her in AN COMBAT as of right now, though.

Well then, and I mean no offense by this, but the title of the thread is objectively misleading.

Gewd. But are you not considering the ancients in the honorable mentions either?

Revan, then Vader. Though I sense a great deal of characters not being considered.

And why do you assume power in and of itself is the be all and end all of the Rule of Two? It was also meant to undermine the jedi order until the time was right. And it succeeded in that regard.

Valkorion being on Sidious's power level doesn't affect or diminish the RoT. Like at all.

yes, you did.

It's treason, then.

Yes. Vitiate's plan failed, but Valkorion's didn't. Oooooor you could accept Revan's (slight) superiority over Starkiller and Vader.

I'm not denying that Bioware didn't totally change **** up at the last second, but they did. Also, "omnipotent" lol. Senya didn't know that side of Valkorion. Her experiences with him were "kind" and "loving."

And you can have qualms with that facet of the story all you want, I was just saying that Valkorion coming out of nowhere wasn't and isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Not sure what you mean by Valkorion came out of nowhere. I mean, he did, but hints were dropped left and right at the end of SOR and especially Ziost that Vitiate had something big planned. Hell, it's actually kind of a good thing that Valkorion brain-rekt everyone and seemingly came out of nowhere, given that was kind of the point, as it puts you in the position of the characters, (i.e. being completely brain-rekt and fooled by Vitiate.) And Valkorion sort of explains why he acts like he does, (his new empire gave him liberties he didn't have in the sith empire, he was always hinted to be "beyond" sith ideologies, etc) so that's not too much of a viable complaint either. And him being Sidious tier was sort of always a thing.

Nah. Not everyone is even agreeing with how they're placed right now. Heck, we've got zoltan vs all in terms of revan vs vader vs starkiller. Perm is right in that inherent human nature prevents from making a "healthy, objective" list.

Congratulations. You explained basic human nature.