In SWTOR the "Real" Game starts at level 1

Amen, talk is cheap, well not in the case of TOR, but you know what the saying implies.

And that's all you get done, you get told what sort of effect your actions have and always trough cutscenes.
WoW shows it ingame and if it's something important enough to warrent it, then the gameworld will change. Action speaks louder than words and creates for a more compelling storytelling both for the people making it and the people experiencing it.

For the makers they have to think more about how this will affect the player and it can't be halfarsed either.
For the player they will always have a visual memory of that thing they did that made the world change in one way or the other, and not to mention, it's more engaging.

When I got a toon to Astranaar in the new levelling experience in Cataclysm I nearly went into a fit of rage at seeing my character's hometown burning and every orc I killed to was accompagnied by the words "die die DIE!"
Once the horde was beaten back and the fires put out it was all "This is my town *****es and stay out!!"

Had I just been told what happened it would had carried no emotionel significance or connection what so ever.

If anyone wants to see storytelling done right with visuals instead of exposition, download a trial of WoW, play a human and quest up untill and including Redridge.
It's a bit of a slow start though since they build it up very well but when it gets going, it really gets going.

The only impact the decisions I made had on my character (inquisitor) were a few emails with a few credits or a useless item and an NPC mentioned that I have a cult on Nar Shaddaa. Also my appearance gradually changed until I got to Dark V.

I wouldn't call this "impact." It's nice fluff but it's not a game changer.

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Going to have to agree with the OP that the way WoW created "end-game" is just bad.

The way Eve-Online has it, is much better - with no clear distinction of "real game". It just keeps going and going.

TOR is going to have the same endgame that WoW has. It's going to be a never ending gear grind. Either you're running dailies and heroics or raids for new gear or you're farming warzones for PvP gear.

I agree. It's a good experience.

100% of quests will be kill how ever many droids you need to pick up 10 droid motors. Don't kid yourself, I'm right. Or maybe it'll be collect 10 of these 5 hour respawn nodes that 16 other people are trying to do, when people are hesitant because they don't want to aggro the mobs guarding the nodes, giving them away to the others.

Yeah, they try to motivate you, saying it'll help research, and it may have nice dialogue and alignment, I'm talking only from the questing standpoint. It reminds me of that 5th grade online math homework. Motivating you with worthless crap. "Ohhh, solve these math problems to help find your way out of the dungeon!" Lol what the hell?

I'm sorry, did I miss something? Okay, all MMOs at level 1. My World of Warcraft Warrior began infront of this guy who said kill 6 wolves. W00t! Yes! I sleighed some wolves, now I feel 1337 in skillz! Where's the story in that? There's no actual story.. there's a reason why said person wants you to do said task... sometimes.

yeah mine are well done and give a story feel to them..

wow is the same u just dont notice anymore casue you have done it by memory so much that there is no cut scene to make u think..

WoW quests= go here, talk to that, get this, kill that, bring it back and collect..same thing..

SWTOR= go here talk to that get this kill that bring it back collect WITH A STORY, CHOICES TO EITHER CHANGE HOW THE QUEST TURNS OUT LIVE OR DIE, DO's AND DONTS...

in WoW instances or flashpoints dont change EVER...Black talon. captain lives diffrent flashpoint, captain dies, diffrent flashpoint...general lives,, general dies..


SWTOR is like choose your own adventure books...diffrent choices diffrent adventure..

So true! Its awesome to have a purpose to the questing other than just grinding to end-cap.