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In SWTOR the "Real" Game starts at level 1

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In SWTOR the "Real" Game starts at level 1

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JediElf
04.03.2012 , 09:13 AM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by Klarick View Post
Those that are new to MMO's may not fully appreciate this topics title. Let me explain. In most MMO's the "Real" game does not start until you reach the highest level and begin running the "so-called end-game content". Take the king of MMOS, WoW, as an example. The road from 1-85 is an excruciating one where nothing you do will have any impact on your toon at level 85. It is called a "grind" for a reason. WoW is not the only culprit here. Most MMOs follow this same broken paradigm.

SWTOR breaks the paradigm and sets a new one.

In SWTOR the "Real" game starts the moment you see the first cut-scene of your character. Starting at level 1 the decisions you make FORM your character. Each mission, each answer you chose has an impact. The game starts at level 1 -- not at the level end-cap! People, this is HUGE! It is genre-setting! It blows away the current MMO paraqdigm of grinding to end-cap levels.

This is why SWTOR succeeds. It is ground breaking in its approach. It amazingly combines the single player aspect with the MMO one. Dont let the complainers fool you either. There is an absolute TON of group content in this game. Yes -- It is an MMO in every aspect of the word EXCEPT it breaks the grind.

Your SWTOR life begins at level 1.

This is why I love this game so much!

You took the words, right out of my mouth.
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Majestic_Jazz
04.03.2012 , 09:13 AM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMintCake View Post
Your right i completely agree, that why i gave up on WOW after getting my character to only level 67 i was fed up the grind of the game having nothing to look forward to only the small benifits of level 85. I feel with SWTOR that its alot better, i enjoy playing at every level i havent yet got bored
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But yeah, I agree and this is why I love SWTOR! In your normal MMO, you play to max level and just sit there and grind endgame forever until the next expansion comes out. With SWTOR, I have options. I can either grind endgame with my Sith Warrior, or I can start another character with a Jedi Consular and have an entirely different experience!

Also because of Legacy, it makes playing with new characters more fun! Because if I start another character as a Jedi Consular, I will be able to play with features/unlocks that I wasn't able to play with as my Sith Warrior because I didn't have the appropriate legacy level at the time. So I level my Jedi Consular to 50 and I decided to go back to my L50 Sith Warrior, now I have a whole new slew of legacy unlocks that I unlocked with my Consular and I can now use with my Warrior! It keeps everything fresh!
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Dayln
04.03.2012 , 09:16 AM | #253
yes... the game starts at level 1

If you bypass content, and rush to 50 as fast as you can, expect to be laughed at if you ever complain about lack of content.
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Lethality
04.03.2012 , 09:17 AM | #254
The problem is not so much that the game starts at level 1, but rather than it ends at level 50 (or before.)
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Goretzu
04.03.2012 , 09:18 AM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by Lethality View Post
The problem is not so much that the game starts at level 1, but rather than it ends at level 50 (or before.)
That looks to be what the OP discovered.



Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
yes... the game starts at level 1

If you bypass content, and rush to 50 as fast as you can, expect to be laughed at if you ever complain about lack of content.

I don't think you can still call getting to L50 now "rushing".
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G-Girl
04.03.2012 , 09:21 AM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by Klarick View Post
So, WoWs end-game has been going on for the last 8 years?
WoW's raids, where less than 6% of the player base (Blizzards numbers -- not mine) ever see it, is end game?
Changing your toons play-style with every patch is end-game?

The only "true" end-game that any game can have is PvP. I will let you figure that statement out, as it would take a bit to explain it fully.

Your statement of End-Game IS the game is why MMOs of today fail. This paradigm was created by Blizzard, who because of their paradigm now has to spend months upon months and spend a huge budget in creating so called end-game content every two months. After all that time and money they sit back and watch their "end-game" players burn through it in 2 weeks then head to the forum and scream for more.

You have missed the point of the topic dear Sir. This Paradigm NEEDS to be broken or we will all be stuck playing WoW forever. BW took a chance with SWTOR. They have decided to attack that paradigm.

I for one believe they succeeded.
Actually Everquest was far worse for pandering to hardcore endgamers than WoW ever was. WoW added a whole load of new, fun low (>50) game content in the last expansion.

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Varnoc
04.03.2012 , 09:21 AM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
If you look at the OP posting history, it looks like he's quit.
That is based on posting history. If you look at last activity you will see a date of today.

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Goretzu
04.03.2012 , 09:23 AM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by Varnoc View Post
That is based on posting history. If you look at last activity you will see a date of today.
Fair enough, if that doesn't count log in after subs.

Be interesting to hear his impressions now, if he hasn't anyway.
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Frostvein
04.03.2012 , 09:29 AM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by Klarick View Post
So, WoWs end-game has been going on for the last 8 years?
WoW's raids, where less than 6% of the player base (Blizzards numbers -- not mine) ever see it, is end game?
These are not Blizzards numbers.
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Rayla_Felana
04.03.2012 , 09:29 AM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by ChuangTzu View Post


There are very few quests that are only go kill 10 droids. That is in there ofcourse but it is usually only the bonus quest and not compulsory to complete the quest. The context set by the dialog makes the game so much more.

I'm sorry you don't feel this way.
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