In SWTOR the "Real" Game starts at level 1

This is an MMO, other people have to play behind you. No MMO will ever have true "choice" that alters the game world as you seem to be looking for. I guess it is back to single player games for you.

you all act like you can't group for these quests while lvling it's encouraged social points and the roll off for who wins the answer this is WIN i keep seeing this is a single player game bull your just doing it wrong. and the cut scenes i love them gives a sense of whats going on i hated reading all those quest givers in wow this is a great alternative if you dont like it space through it you people are just complaining to complain they gave you all the tools to make this game what you want it to be but most people are to ignorant to figure the tools out or too lazy to use them so shut it!

It’s because Single player games are built like this. In a single player game the game starts at level 1 (as the OP put it) The game’s dynamic and involving story keeps you pulled in while you play through it and it comes to a thrilling conclusion at the end. It has worked well and people love it. But once you beat it (sometimes a couple of times) you don’t play it anymore. At least not for the single player experience. FPS games get around this by having the PvP aspect. Something that that genre excels at. However the problem with the model when used in an MMO (like BW has done) is that MMO’s need subscriptions and people to keep playing the game for a long while.

The way SWTOR has been setup people are already done playing the game. Done meaning they have experienced their class story in its entirety, and have very little or no end game content to do.

BW has put their eggs into the basket of Roll an alt, and play through their story For some that will work but even then it’s a very short term fix. Many MMO players actually like to have a single character that they build on and play for years. They are already left out by the game model. Even those that want to experience the story of every class will find they are done with the game in a very few months. Getting to 50 and doing the class quests in their entirety doesn’t take long we now know.

The best way I can put it is would you pay for a subscription to Mass effect? How long would you pay for that subscription after you beat it the first time? The second time? How many players do you think will go through the hundreds of hours of identical gameplay to get the few hours of unique class quest gameplay, for the second time? Third time? Fourth time? Even if you did it for every class that’s only 8 play through. And as I mentioned earlier it wasn’t hard for people to do that in just a few weeks with one character. Image when its your 5th time going through.

The reason every successful MMO has been ”The real game starts at level cap” Is because they need people to keep playing after level cap. With TOR many players are not finding a reason to do so. And weather or not you agree you should be worried that such a mass exodus is possible after less than a month of the game being out.

OP seems delusional, it's still a grind disguised with a binary moral system.

how incredibly inaccurate xD

At about lvl 25 or so i started to skip all the dialog, same blabber all the time. Just get me lvl 50 so i can enjoy some endgame, thats what i will pay money to do and that what mmos are all about, ENDGAME content.

I follow the storyline quest, but most of the sidequests are:

X is a threat to the empire, kill 10
X is a valuable asset to the empire, collect 10
Blow up this gun that's shooting at us
Kill Jedi #54358739475

I love the fact that all the quests are voice acted. I don't care how mundane the reason is for why they want me to do the things they need done. I would rather listen to them talk to me than have a box pop up with text on it, just to close it because I would rather not read it. I finally have missions, and know why I'm doing them.

Some of you may not care, and that's fine. Mash the space bar as fast as you feel, but why knock it? You really don't have to listen to them talk. Really, you don't. But isn't it nice to know if you did want to know what the quests are about, that they talk to you, instead of having to read it? I fail to see why this is a bad thing.

There is still a "grind" in that you have to kill so many of this, collect so many of that, or click on this and that; but those cut scenes do really make the difference. And I am not talking so much about being able to answer which BTW, the value there is "role playing" not to be confused with changing outcomes and I know its a new concept to MMORPGs to have the "role playing" aspect actually exist. The cut scenes that really draw me in are the stuff like when I get ambushed, its more than just some NPCs suddenly spawn a lot of times.

I really am hoping that someone tries to kill me again somewhere.

The OP hit things right on the head... I'm loving getting to play the "REAL" game right from the start!