Fix ranked - Ideas on how to make it better (For MikeB)

You clearly haven't played on Star Forge, where vote kick has been heavily abused all season. I'm not talking about using vote kick on people that are in 270 gear getting globaled. I've even vote kicked a few of them when they defiantly keep ruining the queue and are totally unqualified to play ranked.

On Star Forge, a disturbing number of the regular solo ranked players kick people just for being "bad," even when they're fully geared and trying to win. A select few kick people that they simply don't like, or people whose strats they don't approve of. It is completely, utterly out of control.

On Satele Shan lately, they seem to have learned from Star Forge, because people are being kicked left and right. I saw a sorc last night that had been playing fine in previous matches get netted and killed early in a round. Oh, better kick him because he cost his team the match. It's ludicrous.

And using vote kick on actual throwers doesn't even accomplish anything. It's only a 5 minute cooldown. The tiny benefit of that is not remotely worth the cost of the morons abusing it to bully people out of the queue.

Agree... Players should not have control over other players ability to participate in a mode of play. Set proper requirements for entry and remove vote kick.

Honestly SF is bad I get it but on DM votekick isn't abused and its actually a vital tool as there have been several throwers. Not just bad players but actual throwers to manipulate the queue. After the bans DM has been a lot better but votekick is still needed. A reason for that would be this https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wint...group.1624704/. I have yet to see anything come of it but votekicking allows us as players to regulate match manipulation. I would be totally okay with removing votekick during placements as I can imagine for new players it would be terrible to be votekicked during your first games. This would allow more experienced players to tell newer players how to improve rather than just kicking them.

I fail to see how votekicking combats throwing. You're just doing the guys job for him

rofl. That's a great point. Seriously. I had to think this little quote out in my head and it's pretty brilliant.

What does vote kick actually do for you? How does it prevent match manipulation? The match itself is already ruined, and it only gives them a 5 minute cooldown before they can do it again... Seriously, I've seen this argument a bunch of times, but it has never been explained. Please enlighten me.

I understand there's a difference in the servers. But even if it's being used 100% legitimately on DM, that is still not worth the abuse that happens on SF and SS in the slightest. It has to go.

Remove Ranked Arenas and switch Ranked exclusively to Huttball. Take Huttball out of the regular queue since a lot of people seem to drop when they are surprised by a Huttball match. Not only are you fixing both a Ranked and Unranked complaint, but you no longer have to worry about balancing around 4v4 arenas - in fact, it would probably be the best thing for the game as a whole, period.

If you really think about it, it's actually a brilliant idea if I don't say so myself. Really, though, if you dont find yourself immediately onboard with this idea - think of a way that makes it better, but within the parameters of "Ranked = Only Huttball" and "Unranked = Everything else" and let me know what that would look like, and I am confident you will then agree that this is the healthiest and smartest way to address the problem.

This is the way.

No, it isn’t. What about those Unranked players who like Huttball, but hate the Ranked community?

What about the Ranked players who hate Huttball?

Change is change. You will never change anything while also keeping it the same, and it seems clear to everyone that Ranked should not continue to go on as it is now.

The Ranked scene would drastically change - not just the community or the meta, but its values and capabilities. Vote kicked off an 8 person team? More credibility there than on one of 4. Trying to throw a match? Much harder now. You like Huttball? You can now play it anytime and more than likely have a much larger community of nice Huttball fans than that of the old toxic Ranked community. So what you know now as the Ranked community would change, because things will have changed - you follow?

Current Ranked player that hates Huttball? Play Regs. You'll get the action, and if the Devs have a brain they'll up the rewards for Reg play. Hate Huttball but want the Ranked rewards? I guess you now have to make a very minor decision in your adult life - everyone else had to with the old Ranked meta and community, so what's new?

What about Goldilocks, you ask? Who cares what they think. They shouldn't have broke into someone's house, and should be grateful they got away with everything for as long as they did.

So, yeah, it is.

Have you ever played ranked huttball? I have.
I think a lot of people that have never seen ranked huttball wouldn't like it as much as they like to think they would

In the past I'd have favored this idea, but this **** has set sail a looooooong time ago.