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Willjb
05.28.2020 , 06:57 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by fishpeople View Post
Yes! She wants to return as my equal?! Get the **** out of here! I hate how my Inquisitor just stands there as she walks away.
^+1, Signed, OP. How dare she?! >:I

She doesn't want to get in line, while treating us like a chump. HOW DARE SHE?! >:i Like I'm just going to sit there and let this unruly ungrateful no name egomaniacal hack dress me down! Tau Adair, and woken Ashara - great idea to p*ss off the men (the ones that aren't weaklings) in this game with these inept tyrannical woken butch failures. "I like them young, dumb, uninhibited and ambitious (*sarcasm)."; moreover, "I'll come up with all the ideas. And you can take credit for all of my brilliance." - Paul Heyman. Lana, Kara, Jaesa, Elara, Nadia are way better looking and have a way better attitude: time to trade up.

"There was one thing I wanted to tell you , since you returned. Goodbye, [Ashara]!"

oI-< ----------------------->O




(Ashara------------------->*airlock)
(preferably take that Medusa out like Anakin did to Count Dooku, have to make sure)

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jgoldsack
05.28.2020 , 09:02 AM | #62
My main has always been an inq, and I always felt like it was wrong to not be able to turn Ashara to the dark side, especially as she was the only romance option for a male inq. Playing a DS Inq and having a LS companion was just jarring. I do agree should have had the option to kill her on the reunion, or force her to join if you wanted, there is NO WAY a DS inq would have let her stand up to him/her like that.
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Ner_idia
05.28.2020 , 09:52 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreshaga View Post
And if Xalek can get a kill option for being disrespectfull to the SI during his AA, there's no reason Ashara should not be granted a kill option as well when doing the same thing to the same character...
And there it is. Ashara should have been handled exactly the same way that Xalek was.

Xalek's kill option only makes sense if you're a DS Jedi, because he's otherwise a completely perfect companion. You tell him to clean the ship....he clean the ship. Kill your enemies? He does that too. No argument, no backtalk, no attitude.

Now that I think on it, Valkorian refers to Ashara as "The Corrupted Jedi". Which tells us everything we need to know about what the writers think.....And how little they understood about the relationships between the Inquisitor and her apprentices.

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rumpol
05.28.2020 , 10:39 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Willjb View Post
Tau Adair, and woken Ashara - great idea to p*ss off the men (the ones that aren't weaklings) in this game with these inept tyrannical woken butch failures.
Um what now?

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rumpol
05.28.2020 , 10:40 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
there is NO WAY a DS inq would have let her stand up to him/her like that.
Why not? DS doesn't have to mean ego maniacal, lightning throwing crazy.

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LegallyTwisted
05.28.2020 , 10:46 AM | #66
As a rule, I disapprove of kill options for characters because it means we will NEVER see significant content for them ever again, but if they allowed it with Xalek, they should allow it with Ashara. I dislike double standards, and this is a big one.
But here’s a downside if they do add in the option: it will likely be far less fitting than the moment Ashara stood up for herself. It will, very likely, end up dumb and delayed and honestly probably really random, like many of the other kill options are. The moment to kill her passed by already (unless they put some effort into writing, but given how much attention they give old companions, LOL)

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Goreshaga
05.28.2020 , 12:16 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by rumpol View Post
Why not? DS doesn't have to mean ego maniacal, lightning throwing crazy.
Look, it's fine for you to play a DS SI who may have a soft spot for her, but it's also fine for others to play crazy DS SI who want to kill everything or more pragmatic but still DS SI who see her as a dead weight that would be more dangerous to be left roaming the galaxy than dead.

Also the double standart is annoying. Somehow it seems fine to ask for the head of a male companion / LI but if you ask the same for a female companion LI / you're some kind of monster...
Xalek can be killed for standing up trying to protect his father's grave, but Ashara can't for standing up for herself.
There were people asking for Koth's head because he dared speak up his mind and be unhappy when the PC was murdering Zakulan civilians when HE refused to kill imp/pub civilians (and that was before he left with the Gravestone), and giving him a kill option effectively removed him for pretty much everyone seeing that he was nowhere to be seen when the Gravestone exploded, even for character who didn't kill him...
But wanting Ashara's head when she dares demand to be treated as the PC's equal when she clearly doesn't deserve it and is already not part of the main storyline whiich if she got a kill option would not change anythig for people who want to keep her, is somehow silly...
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rumpol
05.28.2020 , 01:08 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreshaga View Post
Look, it's fine for you to play a DS SI who may have a soft spot for her, but it's also fine for others to play crazy DS SI who want to kill everything or more pragmatic but still DS SI who see her as a dead weight that would be more dangerous to be left roaming the galaxy than dead.

Also the double standart is annoying. Somehow it seems fine to ask for the head of a male companion / LI but if you ask the same for a female companion LI / you're some kind of monster...
Xalek can be killed for standing up trying to protect his father's grave, but Ashara can't for standing up for herself.
There were people asking for Koth's head because he dared speak up his mind and be unhappy when the PC was murdering Zakulan civilians when HE refused to kill imp/pub civilians (and that was before he left with the Gravestone), and giving him a kill option effectively removed him for pretty much everyone seeing that he was nowhere to be seen when the Gravestone exploded, even for character who didn't kill him...
But wanting Ashara's head when she dares demand to be treated as the PC's equal when she clearly doesn't deserve it and is already not part of the main storyline whiich if she got a kill option would not change anythig for people who want to keep her, is somehow silly...

Double standard from whom? Who is saying that you can't play a crazy, psycho DS Inq? if you had read the comment I was replying to instead of just jumping in with both feet and getting your panties in a bunch, you would have seen the other poster stated a DS Inq would not accept that behaviour from Ashara. I merely pointed out DS doesn't have to mean crazy psycho because being DS is not a qualifier for behaviour from a Sith.

Not that anyone needs my permission but please, feel free to play your character as you wish. I also don't believe I even commented on Ashara deserving (or not) a kill option. If this is false, please point it out to me.

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Goreshaga
05.28.2020 , 01:42 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by rumpol View Post
Double standard from whom? Who is saying that you can't play a crazy, psycho DS Inq? if you had read the comment I was replying to instead of just jumping in with both feet and getting your panties in a bunch, you would have seen the other poster stated a DS Inq would not accept that behaviour from Ashara. I merely pointed out DS doesn't have to mean crazy psycho because being DS is not a qualifier for behaviour from a Sith.

Not that anyone needs my permission but please, feel free to play your character as you wish. I also don't believe I even commented on Ashara deserving (or not) a kill option. If this is false, please point it out to me.
From people being against kill options on female LIs while being perfectly fine with kill options on male LIs (or not Lis but it mostly applies to LIs as female comps are, except Senya and SCORPIO, they're all LIs), that is double standard.
If 2 characters behave pretty much the same way, they should face pretty much the same consequences for a same character, no matter their gender, and not have some kind of special treatment because they're female.

Thing is by not having a kill option on her, i can't play my character the way i want, because with the way the AA plays out, there is no way he'd let her go without killing her, and he'd certainly not stand there like an idiot while she proudly walks away...
If her AA was different my pov would probably be different, but it's not the case, and there, that option should've been there.
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Willjb
05.28.2020 , 02:16 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by rumpol View Post
You have issues, seek help.
^Look who's talking. ^WAH~, keep projecting and sticking with a sad blanket statement to try to hide that you have NO sound argument and keep hiding from reality.
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