Covid 19

Bill Gates predicted a pandemic scenario years ago. He brought it to President Trumps attention but nothing really got formulated in terms of preparation. Basically, the world was not ready for something of this magnitude. Society as a whole is still too vulnerable. Hopefully governments are taking notes so that the next one doesn't completely wipe out the human race. Paraphrasing Bill Gates, the economy will build back up in time but the loss of people is unrecoverable. I agree with that completely. We got a $1200 stimulus check which went to pay off last months rent. Now it's pushing on to May with no jobs. They should implement a basic income until the pandemic subsides. Pres. Trump wants to reopen business by the end of May. Foolish in my opnion. Become lackadaisy now and we'll reap the whirlwind. It's better to continue the quarantine, continue testing and practicing social distancing. If we go back out now we will spike the infection rate back up and we'll have to go back into a quarantine state all over again.

Yeah i seen that one women showing her hair that its terrible and she needs it done so they should open the hair saloons in that case you can just say americans..... (not all ofc but sadly thats how the world view them).

Of all the people..... Bill Gates......you need to understand that for these people charity does not exist. They only put money into something to get more money out of it. Like Bezos, how do you think Gates maintains his billions?? If he would be giving money away he would end up having nothing.

As for human lives lost, yes, when a person dies its sad, but just look at the numbers we are presented with (fake or not) we might get up to 300k dead people.... I mean there are 8 bil people on the planet. Estimates are that everday 150k people die so from start of the year thats what? 16 mil? Are people sad about that? No, its statistics. Media got this virus WAY too much attention. I do not watch TV at all, but when we visit fridnds and family and there is a TV running its all about the virus, like there is no other problems in the world.

As for fighting the virus I would also say to open the businesses, but keep the hygiene standards. We go to work normaly for the 2nd week already and people gave up wearing protection. The big car factories in our country are working already too. People just wear masks outside, cause that would be against the current law. They also dont let u inside the groceries shop without a face mask. People in houses around us, nobody wears it anymore. We have maps which show where the infected are from and there is nothing around us so no need. Our company is sending people to work abroad and they travel through 2 countries to get to their work destination, its already possible now since countries around us opened borders.

Yeah, granted, I can see why we'd associate the super rich with having ulterior motives where they only give to charity if they were getting something back. Guess they'll always have that stigma. Regardless, here is a Youtube video, dated a few weeks back, between Bill Gates and Trevor Noah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyFT8qXcOrM

Does it seem forced or coerced? Does he seem genuine or fake? I guess our preconceived biases of the man will determine that. It certainly changed my perspective of him. Nonetheless, it was solid and informative. Yeah, the guy is stupid rich but he's also stupid smart!

My state (SC) is opening the beaches and some retail stores, though restrictions are still in place. Only 5 people allowed in the stores per 1000 feet. On the beaches, no groups larger than 3 people or they can be broken up.

I may go around in circles and contradict but I'm going to attempt to present both sides:

I don't know Bill Gates personally. Will I ever share a beer with him? No, unlikely. So I can't vouch for him. Even then how well do you really know someone, eh? The mythos is that he's the white devil because he's unfathomably rich. His sole purpose is to make money. Some will always perceive that as devious. That's unavoidable. We can speculate that in order to achieve his level of wealth he must possess some ruthless qualities. We already have plenty of examples of people that rise to extreme success that showcase undesirable traits. History makes us skeptical of them, as we should be. Only children can afford to be naive. However....

Based simply on videos that I watched, he appears, at least in my eyes, to be gentle and passive. There are some non aggressive qualities to his persona. Going as far as almost calling him the quintessential "nerd". Frail, awkward, rounded shoulders, and somewhat feminine. There are some idiosyncrasies about him that don't threaten me. He is articulate. He is also informative. Communication deescalates confusion. Also note there is no bass in his voice. Giving credit to the doubt, at first glance you'd take him as an unassuming non factor. Is that designed? Perhaps. Does he recognize his appearance as a fault or does he play it off like a Trojan horse? I assume he is clever enough to use his demeanor to his advantage.

Double edged dangerous man or prodigious do-gooder? Absolutely!

As far as his endeavors in pandemic research, I only watched his Ted Talk from 5 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI&t=40s. Interesting and thought provoking to say the least.
I take Ted Talks to be on the more dutifully informative side as opposed to the media and it's deceptive practice to conjure news instead of reporting it. Isn't that funny? Maybe it's just me but I trust Bill Gates over CNN. Sad in a way too.

Beyond my sheltered bubble of a life, I can only speculate. I cannot say for certain of anything outside of my window.
Can't reasonably attest to the response times of the world governments. Nor can i deny that it's all about the money. However, I can entertain that it's all a conspiracy to cull the worlds population.

That is the problem with the choices we get. Its like with politics. In my country they alway say, we have to chose the lesser evil, I mean why? Why isnt there good to be chosen when you go to vote?? We lack the choices, when you watch television you are only presented by choices they want you to see.

As for deciding whether something is fake or not, I think its only about your emotions and feelings. If you feel that its nonsence, it probably is, if not then there might be something to it. When a child is born he is pure, what messes it up later are the other people. I think that every human being has this feeling for what is right and wrong. I can only speak for myself here, but when i was doing something bad I had this feeling deep inside that its wrong. I think if people trust their instincs they will pic the right choice and it doesnt necesserily have to be the one on TV, Internet or any other media.

You are promulgating knowledge based on ZERO actual medical expertise. What the_____ does "keep the hygiene standards" even mean? Earlier you said we could detect it. Please explain how that is possible. Oh wait you can't.

What is worse, you are pretending that you have medical knowledge based on your parents, your friends, and your correspondence with them.

I saw Happy Feet (and Happy Feet 2!!!!). I'm not an expert on Antarctica.

I am stunned and disappointed BW has not banned you. My only solace is that I think forum denizens here are smart enough to realize you are a complete ____.

That is all,

Dasty

Unfortunately the moderators appear to be asleep, there are many trolls, people feeding wrong info, etc on the forum these days, and no one seems to be stopping them, no idea if it's because they aren't monitored as much as they used to be. Many of the threads have either been started by trolls, or highjacked by them. It's sad that in this crisis, people like that excist, and instead of showing what could be the best, or better part of humanity, we seem to be seeing the worst :/


(Probably risking the ban hammer myself for saying this, but it'd be a small price to pay to remove these nasty trolls)

Not sure what your hygiene standard is but its mainly to wash your hands and in case of the virus you just need to wear you mask. Look, the virus can spread by drops from your mouth or nose. So, if you keep those covered the chance to infect someone is minimal. Also, if you happen to touch the area of you mouth/nose and you get some drops on your hands its necessary to wash them right away or even disinfect (they provide disinfection everywhere now). This means there is almost no chance for the virus to spread if you just keep this (wear a face mask, wash/disinfect hands).

You do not need to be an expert to know that you have to wash your hands. I never said that since my folks are MDs that I can go do surgery now. I learned mainly stuff like how to help in an emergency (you an learn that in courses too), names of many useful medicaments and their main substance (based on that you can find a suplement or many other things), how hospitals work, clinics etc. I learned basic stuff from them, stuff anyone would learn, nothing in a matter of being an expert, thats what you came up with. The main thing I got from my parents now is information on all this. Even this weekend I was with my parents after several weeks (due to quaranteen, they are from different city) and laughed that all this is wrong, they got 10 patients in hospital atm with no serious problems (its just a cold). They told me everyone should just have kept on working, going to school etc. They should have only locked down the old people and people with immunity problems. If you would interact with these people (bring them food etc) you would take precautions, but thats pretty much it. People would get sick for 1-2 weeks and then be fine. This is their point of view, you can either take it or leave it, I pretty much do not care.

Why would they bann me?