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I am Disappointed with Flash points beyond Black Talon.

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I am Disappointed with Flash points beyond Black Talon.

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Trucegore
12.28.2011 , 02:20 PM | #1
Black Talon should have been the template for all Flash points. The others I have done so far are rather disappointing standard rooms with mobs in them.

The real tragedy is they do not scale in any way.

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Drudenfusz
12.28.2011 , 02:22 PM | #2
I play republic, but had the same feeling after the Esseles all the flashpoints feel like there is no story in them (just around them at the beginning and the end outside the actual instance). Pretty disappointing.
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SuperJason
12.28.2011 , 02:24 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Trucegore View Post
Black Talon should have been the template for all Flash points. The others I have done so far are rather disappointing standard rooms with mobs in them.
Wait til you get to Boarding Party and especially Foundry....that is all

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Trucegore
12.28.2011 , 02:25 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by SuperJason View Post
Wait til you get to Boarding Party and especially Foundry....that is all
How cryptic. Are you saying they follow the BT template of story and multi paths?

Then again, I suppose the real tragedy is they do not scale in any way.

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Macheath
12.28.2011 , 04:13 PM | #5
Flashpoints like Hammer Station and Althiss were added late to the game, because players wanted more group content. The "original" Flashpoints are far more involved, but they are few and far between.

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Trucegore
12.29.2011 , 10:06 AM | #6
Well, they really need more like BT. BT was a breath of fresh air comparatively speaking.

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McRuffles
12.29.2011 , 10:15 AM | #7
Yeah, Black Talon and in fact I would say Esselles more, showed a heck of a lot of promise.

This is a story based MMO right? and yet only the first FP for both sides has any real story to it.

My friend did put a good counter point to this though... "thinking of the longevity of the game, would you want to listen to the same dialog day in day out when you're grinding hard mode FPs?"

It's a fair point... I dunno if I would like to partake in the ensuing rage quits from PUGs because such-and-such chose light/dark (even though it doesn't matter), and hearing the droid instruct you on your next task in black talon got tedious after boosting my guildies for the 3rd time.

A story should progress... it shouldn't be experienced over and over like groundhog day....

However, I can't help shake the sense of awesomeness I got the first time I did those FPs. Story did add to them on the first playthrough and it did make other FPs seem really empty in comparison.
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Trucegore
12.29.2011 , 10:19 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by McRuffles View Post
My friend did put a good counter point to this though... "thinking of the longevity of the game, would you want to listen to the same dialog day in day out when you're grinding hard mode FPs?"
Yes. Because those story's change depending on who you are grouped with, as well as the FP have different routs to completion.

If they needed more group content, then they should have added a third route to existing FP. Perhaps multi-branch points throughout. More than one Discussion point.



To do such a great FP, with multi-branching layouts and routs, then just toss in some rooms with mobs in it later is a real letdown.

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McRuffles
12.29.2011 , 10:23 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Trucegore View Post
Yes. Because those story's change depending on who you are grouped with, as well as the FP have different routs to completion.

If they needed more group content, then they should have added a third route to existing FP. Perhaps multi-branch points throughout. More than one Discussion point.



To do such a great FP, with multi-branching layouts and routs, then just toss in some rooms with mobs in it later is a real letdown.
Yeah, but lets be frank... there isn't that much variation in the dialog beyond the light/dark choices...
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theonepanda
12.29.2011 , 10:42 AM | #10
Also: flashpoints do scale!

Heroic flashpoints woo.