SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

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SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

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Nitewolfe

01.22.2012 , 04:04 AM \| #841
Quote: Originally Posted by Tygranir I have a 2004 WRX STI with 7 years worth of performance upgrades. You think a 2012 Stock WRX STI would come even close to a machine that has had 7 years to fine tune and upgrade? Not a chance. Lets take your example in to consideration. Your 2004 car with 7 years of upgrades Note this is your car and clearly is not a stock car you stated 7 years of upgrades. Now i want to build a car that would compete with your 2004 tricked out machine. I can promise you i would not just go buy a 2011 stock wrx sti to compete with your trick pony. I assure you that it would show up with every bell and whistle you have plus some! The key here is that it is a competition In our cars case it would be who was faster or had more raw HP or so on. In the wow verse swtor completion its like wow has the tricked out car and swtor is showing up in a stock version car and they are going to race.. Well i can tell you who i am betting on LOL!

GalacticKegger

01.22.2012 , 04:15 AM \| #842
Quote: Originally Posted by radersdad Not an analogy, as a man in the revenge business once said "I do not think it means what you think it means." An analogous comparison is purchasing a graphics editing program today (Photoshop CS5) and it not having features found in software from 2004 (Photoshop CS1). Biodrone fanboi logic is fine for the imaginary land where science does not apply. That is sort of the point of escapist sci/fi games like ToR; escape from reality. EA/BioWare does not have the luxury of operating in that fairyland and so must compete with other products on the market today, not products on the market in 2004. Maybe if they invent a time machine but otherwise we are stuck in 2012. They know it and are working to catch up adding features/functionality that should have been present at release. It was rushed out a couple months early for business reasons and hopefully the devs can make up that ground in a hurry before too many subs are lost. True - if graphics editing is the expectation. But this controversy has moved toward placating an audience that also wants sound design, video editing and label distribution built in. They want the entire suite. And WoW hasn't been the only benchmark. It's almost as if the best combinations from every game ever made are expected because of TOR's price tag to develop. BW made it perfectly clear where they were putting their money - into voice acted storylines. Dev does want to find the compromise, and they are working in that direction. But it won't happen overnight because of their $200m or so commitment to the original vision. I really think some figure "well they obviously have the money so why not?" That's the fantasy many are mistakenly choosing to embrace.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

Tygranir

01.22.2012 , 04:20 AM \| #843
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe Lets take your example in to consideration. Your 2004 car with 7 years of upgrades Note this is your car and clearly is not a stock car you stated 7 years of upgrades. Now i want to build a car that would compete with your 2004 tricked out machine. I can promise you i would not just go buy a 2011 stock wrx sti to compete with your trick pony. I assure you that it would show up with every bell and whistle you have plus some! The key here is that it is a competition In our cars case it would be who was faster or had more raw HP or so on. In the wow verse swtor completion its like wow has the tricked out car and swtor is showing up in a stock version car and they are going to race.. Well i can tell you who i am betting on LOL! Exactly my point. WoW has more features, as a tricked out 2004 WRX STI does. But a band new car does not have all of that , but I don't buy a brand new car and expect it to compete. I but a new car because I like what it DOES have and intend to build from there, see what I'm saying?
I am eating your canon, and pooping your immersion.

Ghaiana

01.22.2012 , 04:24 AM \| #844
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe Lets take your example in to consideration. Your 2004 car with 7 years of upgrades Note this is your car and clearly is not a stock car you stated 7 years of upgrades. Now i want to build a car that would compete with your 2004 tricked out machine. I can promise you i would not just go buy a 2011 stock wrx sti to compete with your trick pony. I assure you that it would show up with every bell and whistle you have plus some! The key here is that it is a competition In our cars case it would be who was faster or had more raw HP or so on. In the wow verse swtor completion its like wow has the tricked out car and swtor is showing up in a stock version car and they are going to race.. Well i can tell you who i am betting on LOL! The process of making software is slightly different, mostly you start making a product with the necessary feautures and get it stable. Version 1. After that you add features that people like, version 2,3 etc. Contrary to making cars, software will be improved and changed in the core over time, cars not.

thegrognard

01.22.2012 , 04:31 AM \| #845
Actually I've been stating that this game is far better than WoW. I have to admit I have played a MMO that wasn't based on the same template as WoW...I think. CoH/V was pretty damn awesome, though unfortunatly I lost interest in that MMO and have no idea what they're doing now. Swtor is brand new and as we've seen from the trailer they've shown us that they have many, many big ideas coming down the pipe towards us. I love the implimentation of titles in the game which reminds me of CoH/V (actually i recognised the name RockJaw as a dev from that game) but at the same time it's done in a unique way. The crafting here is better as the lowest quality items you make are green unlike WoW and I love the ability to send your companions away on missions or crafting whilst you are either in a big group of PVP. It's beaten WoW in every possible way in my opinion besides the level cap, but I'm in no hurry for that as I just enjoy walking around and exploring new worlds, gripping stories, reading the codex and so on.

KazdamRass

01.22.2012 , 04:34 AM \| #846
Quote: Originally Posted by Neeseek People are stupid. Exactly this

GalacticKegger

01.22.2012 , 04:34 AM \| #847
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghaiana The process of making software is slightly different, mostly you start making a product with the necessary feautures and get it stable. Version 1. After that you add features that people like, version 2,3 etc. Contrary to making cars, software will be improved and changed in the core over time, cars not. Cars yes . . . assuming performance is a concern. SWTOR as it stands is a cruiser not a race car. It can be turned into a race car but not until it has been chopped and that takes time. A lot of time, especially if peeking over the garage wall to see how the other team does it is how their success is being duplicated. Blizz had 7 years on the market to build theirs. Gamers who expected TOR to be a car in full (insert your favorite MMO here)-level race trim right off the truck either didn't read BW's early press or chose to ignore it. My take on Tygranir's post anyway.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

navarh

01.22.2012 , 04:35 AM \| #848
Quote: Originally Posted by Tygranir I like what it DOES have and intend to build from there, see what I'm saying? it does good single-player voiced rpg, i admit it i enjoyed leveling and that's all, now i have 2+ month pre-payed sub and anything to do, except lvl-up other 7 classes

Fraxture

01.22.2012 , 04:39 AM \| #849
They feign business and programming experience, when they have neither. It's easy to play the game from the safety and comfort of your recliner. But none of these fools who are comparing have done either on a large scale or professional level, and most likely never will. I mean if they did, they wouldn't have the time to sit in these forums ************ about the game's state and posting all day because they would be too busy doing either of the above. If anyone did the same to them about their job or performance they would be crying crocodile tears.
Fix the FPS issues in SWTOR!!!! SWTOR Tech Thread

xngxng

01.22.2012 , 04:42 AM \| #850
Quote: Originally Posted by Dathron People say wow has so many fetures and swtor is bad because it does not have them... wow has had 7 years to improve upon its self. Give Swtor a chance and time to put in the things your ***** complaining about.... �.� WoW was not the first MMO nore was it original all WoW did was take the MMO template and improve upon it by removing things that were annoying (e.g crafting had a chance to fail) it did this with games Such as Ever Quest and so on. SWTOR has done the same it has take the MMO TEMPLATE not copyed wow but taken the MMO TEMPLATE Which all MMO's use and removed useless stuff, ADDED** its own stuff and improved upon existing stuff. People need to remember WoW its self is a quoat un quoat "Clone" of the MMO's that came before it. My final point. Who cares if it borrowed things from other games, it happens all the time in everything. just shut up, get on with the game and stop comparing it to WoW; an MMO thats long out lived its greatness WoW "died" along time ago and is just clinging onto life and dragging its self out to long. Its 7 gosh darn years old, its had its time at the top and has set a good standard for MMO's to go by and people should accept the fact its long out lived its awesomenes. People do not compare, only you do.

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