SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

BW would instantly ditch all of the "DON"T COMPARE SWTOR WITH WOW" people if they could have a portion WoW's audience, there's no question there, because they want to be compared to WoW except for it to be in their favor. The ideal situation is that SWTOR steals a ton of WoW's subs and stay that way. How do you steal WoW's audience? Well according to the Devs, you make WoW except put your own spin on it, like Warhammer, Conan, Star Wars... You don't make another EvE and expect to steal WoW's subs.

So no, SWTOR was definitely supposed to copy WoW, because they wanted that audience. Except they just didn't make the game good enough to steal it.

they compare the 2 because of the same reason people make these threads. stupidity.

And this is why SWTOR, so far at it's peak, has just a small fraction of the sub's that WoW has?

Paying sub's will say who has the better MMO. Right now SWTOR just entered the game and Bioware/EA need to do some hard core strategizing to stay in it let alone be the best.

Why are you still here Papa? I mean you have constantly bashed and rebashed this game, why are you still subscribed? I am going to quote another poster with my next line and I hope the other poster doesn't mind if I use it as a signature. What you don't get is that the people who are playing SWTOR are here to play this game, some of us have played wow for 7 years and are tired of it. We are ready for something new and don't mind waiting for features to be added to this game to make it better. Thats why we make constructive suggestions and choose not to bash it. Some of us don't want all the features wow has, and read the quote below!


Btw, I still play WoW. It's a great game. But it's not TOR. And TOR isn't WoW. That is all.

step one:
you release in 2011 car like another lamborghini diablo 1990 in cost of veyron that is alredy in market - ufail so hard that i can't even explain

step two:
you ignore step one and what? half of you core features is broken half of extra is missing…

staill playing wow and won't cancel tor sub for now, i'll watch what will come in 2 month that i prepayed

Let me list a few things about wow. Ill number them

1. Battlegrounds, I dont pvp and never will in wow. It was dumb and I hope this game is better and if not, Ill go pvp in battlefield 3 and not worry about any form of pvp in this game.

2. Im not competative in MMORPG's. If i wanted to compete with someone for somthing, it would be in IRL purposes that will actually better myself and my family. For example, winning a race where the price is $1,000 dollers. That 1 grand will go much farther then competing with people in a video game that is nothing more then a hobby.

4. Achievments ah achievments. What are they for? What do they do? The last achievment I was working really hard on was The Insane. I got everything to exalted including The Shen'dralar only to find out blizzard made them not be required. Alright so I went to work on darkmoon, the last one I needed. Blizzard then in turn added in the dailys for DMF and you never need to turn in a deck of cards again to get the achievment completed. Thanks for that slap in the face. However this made me see that achievments do nothing for you. Yeah they give titles somthings or a mount but its all cosmetic. Ooo look I have a dragon that.............stands there! "Does the Dragon fight and kill things and breath fire?" Nope its stands there though. Yeah no

Obviously Bioware will continue to add in more endgame content. I agree that the lack of endgame content is a problem for some of the 50's, no way to know how many are bothered by it but probably quite a few.

Holy hell, can you be any more of a fanboy? Space COmbat? Are you serious? Starfox from over a decade ago is better done then this games stinking pile of crap space combat. Holocrons, you are surely kidding, you really think they affect your character in a meaningful way? Go add up every single bonus then come back and say that with a straight face, the difference is so miniscule. And in TOR, once you clear the place, there is no incentive to go back either, except to hear different words and still get to the same conclusion. This dude dies, that dude doesn't die, doesn't make a difference, you'll never see him again.


Fact is, WoW is far better because yes, it has had 7 more years then TOR, but when you got out and want to buy a car, do you say "Oh, well the Honda Accord has been out since the 70s, so it's not fair to compare a 2011 Accord to a Chevy Volt because the just came out, of course they are going to have problems!". No, you look at them both, as they stand, and in this case, WoW is far superior, whether they stole ideas or not, Blizzards game is far superior, and TOR has no hope because Bioware is to arrogant to admit that linear gameplay is really unappealing and players want choice, and choices that make a difference, not some live or die scenario that either way doesn't affect you aside from +100 or -100 to your chosen alignment.

Apples and oranges, and just bad analogy in general.

How about this, lets say Microsoft Windows 8 comes out, and they decide not to include support for tcp/ip. Or any other internet protocol?

Would you defend after a month ?

Of course you wouldn't.

We EXPECT that our OS's include the ability to network with other machines and devices.Thus giving us the ability to interact with the internet. It's no longer considered an "Optional" feature it's a MUST HAVE feature before we'll even consider it.

Would you buy a cell phone that doesn't have a camera, or internet, or the ability to text? Would you defend such a product just because the manufacturer is new to the industry, or because its a brand-new model?

Only in MMO wacky-World do you have scores of people who will defend failures and then hang their hats on a developers promise to fix it sometime in the future.

I'd rather not reward failure myself as it reinforces the behavior.

Once (and IF) the game gets fixed, then and ONLY then, will I spend my money on it.

Heck, I remember the horrible release of AoC, and all the promises made by FunCom... Oh will fix this "soon" or we'll add that "soon". I'm still waiting on most of them to be fulfilled.

Clearly "Soon" is far overused in this industry.

My free time didn't run out already =)

And you've obviously never played WoW. In WoW you can travel anywhere throughout the world and pick up quests anywhere. In this game you travel down a narrow corridor from one quest to another with no deviation or player-choices possible.