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SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

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SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

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GraunKrynn
12.29.2011 , 02:59 PM | #351
I'll take SWTOR now over WOW now. Period. If you won't, nothing is keeping you here.

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Lankybrit
12.29.2011 , 03:02 PM | #352
Why do I compare a brand new Toyota Prius with a brand new Honda hybrid, and not the Honda that was released 7 years ago?

There. you have your answer.

Cheers.

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a_Stalker
12.29.2011 , 03:04 PM | #353
Quote: Originally Posted by Metsuro View Post
because it had 7 years to do research and development. A game released after it, should have an idea based on whats already done of what should be included an a next gen mmo.

Yes. You do not design a new car to be like 1908 Ford Model T. You make it to be as good or better than the latest 21st century model.

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As it stands, swtor is like WoW when it launched. Not how WoW is today. Which is the problem.
I am sorry but no, it is much worse than classic WOW. In Classic WOW, Winter 2004, I could roll a new character, leave my starting area, and go level in some other area with other friends. I could take and drop quests as I pleased. Major quest lines were tied to player level, not to prerequisite quests. In SWTOR terms this would translate as : "you hit level 16, you get a short or long quest and you get your ship. Regardless what quests you have done before or where you did them". So no, SWTOR is a single player game really.

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DeathStarPlumber
12.29.2011 , 03:06 PM | #354
When WOW released it was new and fresh, although people will say WOW stole from everquest it still felt like a completely new game/experience. Swtor and even games like Rift feel & play like WOW thus the demand for "clones" to launch with the same features and content people are use to is a must.


The reality is , If SWTOR was a fresh and a completely new expierance or at least felt that way people wouldn't make comparisons but the fact is this game is very World of Warcrafty and thus people are going to compare.
Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.

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Dilkin
12.29.2011 , 03:08 PM | #355
Bcause ppl are fugging fidiots.
Playing MMOs since 1996.

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DeathStarPlumber
12.29.2011 , 03:09 PM | #356
I wonder if the guys who designed the New chevy Camaro get pissed when people compare it to the Ford Mustang ? Thats basically what is going on here.
Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.

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druvokus
12.29.2011 , 03:17 PM | #357
Quote: Originally Posted by Dathron View Post
People say wow has so many fetures and swtor is bad because it does not have them... wow has had 7 years to improve upon its self. Give Swtor a chance and time to put in the things your ******* complaining about.... ¬.¬

WoW was not the first MMO nore was it original all WoW did was take the MMO template and improve upon it by removing things that were annoying (e.g crafting had a chance to fail) it did this with games Such as Ever Quest and so on.

SWTOR has done the same it has take the MMO TEMPLATE not copyed wow but taken the MMO TEMPLATE Which all MMO's use and removed useless stuff, ADDED its own stuff and improved upon existing stuff.

People need to remember WoW its self is a quoat un quoat "Clone" of the MMO's that came before it.

My final point. Who cares if it borrowed things from other games, it happens all the time in everything. just shut up, get on with the game and stop comparing it to WoW; an MMO thats long out lived its greatness WoW "died" along time ago and is just clinging onto life and dragging its self out to long. Its 7 gosh darn years old, its had its time at the top and has set a good standard for MMO's to go by and people should accept the fact its long out lived its awesomenes.
Too funny. Was just discussing this with a friend. My buddy and me love the SWTOR ...but we also played WOW since it first started. A good 7 years. And, we both loved "Vanilla Wow" the best.

But, maybe that feeling has changed now. We feel we are actually playing the "Vanilla Wow" again (aka SWTOR) ....WOW has changed so much over the years and now I feel SPOILED with the WOW changes. While playing SWTOR ...I'm like, where is the "Looking For Groups" button? Why can't I choose what "Warzone" I want?

Here I was excited about having a "Vanilla SWTOR" and now ...now I want some of the things I want it to have like the "New WOW". And, I know that's what ruined WOW.

Damn. I'm spoiled with the new stuff

I love SWTOR ...now I just have to accept what I always wanted from the Vanilla WOW.

Finished venting :P LOL

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Abriael
12.29.2011 , 03:24 PM | #358
Because people think that just becasue a game it's there on the market, it's possible for another developer to reproduce ALL it's features developed on several years at launch.

Of course it's not possible due to time, resources, personnel and budget constraints, as the launch of every single MMORPG demonstrates, but logic doesn't reside on the internet.

It's doubtless that SWTOR had the most polished, content and feature rich release of all times in the MMORPG market, it beats the release of WoW or any other MMORPG since and before by a power of two, but for some this still isn't enough.

They lack any kind of experience or knowledge about the challenges of developing an MMORPG, but unfortunately forums are made even for the ignorant to be able to flap their gums endlessly. Luckily, they're pretty inconsequential. The launch is a resounding success, and the game seems to be heading even higher. For every whiner on the forums, there are thousands in the game having fun.

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Count_Fooku
12.29.2011 , 03:25 PM | #359
SWTOR has to compete with what's currently being offered by the competition, plain and simple.

Would you expect a competitor to be successful against Apple if they released a tablet with only half the features for the close to the same price as an iPad? No, you wouldn't.

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Abriael
12.29.2011 , 03:28 PM | #360
Quote: Originally Posted by Count_Fooku View Post
SWTOR has to compete with what's currently being offered by the competition, plain and simple.

Would you expect a competitor to be successful against Apple if they released a tablet with only half the features for the close to the same price as an iPad? No, you wouldn't.
They're completely different markets. You're comparing apples to oranges. Quality-wise, SWTOR can easily compete with wow, and beat it.

Quantity-wise, it's a different matter, features take time, resources and personnel to develop, and unless you expect games to take 10 years in developement, reproducing all the features of veteran games at launch simply won't happen. The fact that it NEVER happens should give you a quite clear clue on how feasible it is.

if you expect it, you need a reality check. That's all there's to it.

Besides, SWTOR has plenty features that WoW does not have (and will never have), and they aren't minor ones.