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SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

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SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?

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Skoobie
12.28.2011 , 07:58 PM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by Voxtrot View Post
Here, let me simplify the other 5% of posts for anyone just tuning in:

"*** *** *** Go back to WoW! *** *** ***"

Fair?
No, not really. Seems like the other 5% is saying "these things will come in time."

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Voxtrot
12.28.2011 , 08:02 PM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
No, not really. Seems like the other 5% is saying "these things will come in time."
And completely missing the point of the people who are saying "But, why should we wait 7 years for features that are industry standards now?"

Regardless, your hyperbole was the reason I, too, used hyperbole in describing anyone on your side of the issue. If everyone saying there are serious problems here is an impatient baby, then literally everyone else is a BW white knight participating in a forums-wide circle jerk. You dig?

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Skoobie
12.28.2011 , 08:06 PM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by Voxtrot View Post
And completely missing the point of the people who are saying "But, why should we wait 7 years for features that are industry standards now?"
Which brings me back to my original post:

I want it all and I want it now.

I'm not sure why you are taking it so personally, I didn't single you out.

Apologize if I touched a nerve.....

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Voxtrot
12.28.2011 , 08:09 PM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
Which brings me back to my original post:

I want it all and I want it now.

I'm not sure why you are taking it so personally, I didn't single out you.

Apologize if I touched a nerve.....
No, what they (and I) want is a game that is just as functional as a game released this decade, not last. Do you understand this, or is everything either THIS or THAT to you? You can be upset with the direction of a game without wanting literally EVERY SINGLE FEATURE of another.

I am not taking it personally, I just think it is the hallmark of a poster not acquainted with critical thinking.

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Skoobie
12.28.2011 , 08:17 PM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by Voxtrot View Post
No, what they (and I) want is a game that is just as functional as a game released this decade, not last. Do you understand this, or is everything either THIS or THAT to you? You can be upset with the direction of a game without wanting literally EVERY SINGLE FEATURE of another.

I am not taking it personally, I just think it is the hallmark of a poster not acquainted with critical thinking.
I understand it perfectly.

You want it all, and you want it now.

You are upset because the game doesn't have all the features YOU wanted, right at launch. Even tho they obviously are not necessary to launch. You also can't seem to comprehend (or have the patience) that these things may come in time. You don't want to wait for it? Well, too bad, you're going to have too...or you can leave. It really is that simple. Come back when the game is more suited to your tastes.

You say your not taking it personally, yet you make personal attacks? Yea....

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peroxsigh
12.28.2011 , 08:22 PM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by DaEzz View Post
You are right of course, but I would rather put it that the Bioware devs didnt learn enough from what WoW and other MMO´s did/does right when it comes down to the basics.
I think because the foundation had already been set and they already had a concept created and a game in place, they wanted to just make sure the game was ready for release instead of trying to redo things to catch up with the competition. Release date delays weren't going to happen so they can go back and try to put the game in development all over again.

Now that the game is out, they can focus on what the competition is doing today.
This was one of the worst launches, ever. I should have known, considering EA is involved. Anyone remember the 7 hour server crashes for BF3?

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Gunryu
12.28.2011 , 08:22 PM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
I understand it perfectly.

You want it all, and you want it now.

You are upset because the game doesn't have all the features YOU wanted, right at launch. Even tho they obviously are not necessary to launch. You also can't seem to comprehend (or have the patience) that these things may come in time. You don't want to wait for it? Well, too bad, you're going to have too...or you can leave. It really is that simple. Come back when the game is more suited to your tastes.

You say your not taking it personally, yet you make personal attacks? Yea....

Even Rift had a customizable UI, Combat Log, Functional AH, and decent combat.........but hey, it's all about voice acting!
You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new. - Steve Jobs

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Lycnas
12.28.2011 , 08:24 PM | #258
In 7 years I see swtor being better than wow.
"Silence Meatbag"

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peroxsigh
12.28.2011 , 08:31 PM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunryu View Post
Even Rift had a customizable UI, Combat Log, Functional AH, and decent combat.........but hey, it's all about voice acting!
I don't have any problems with the combat other than some bugs that force the GCD, and some flaws with melee in pvp. Lag, range, etc.

I don't think anyone can defend the lack of a combat log though.
This was one of the worst launches, ever. I should have known, considering EA is involved. Anyone remember the 7 hour server crashes for BF3?

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Voxtrot
12.28.2011 , 08:31 PM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by Skoobie View Post
I understand it perfectly.

You want it all, and you want it now.

You are upset because the game doesn't have all the features YOU wanted, right at launch. Even tho they obviously are not necessary to launch. You also can't seem to comprehend (or have the patience) that these things may come in time. You don't want to wait for it? Well, too bad, you're going to have too...or you can leave. It really is that simple. Come back when the game is more suited to your tastes.

You say your not taking it personally, yet you make personal attacks? Yea....
How did I make a personal attack any more than you did? I merely explained what I was conveying. If I explain what you were conveying (i.e. we are whiny, entitled brats), it sounds equally as harsh.

And yes, I was spot on about the lack of a capacity for critical thinking.

I guess you feel people who get angry over any product not carrying basic features of the product type is a whiny, impatient baby, eh?

e: In the end :itisacaranalogy:, this is exactly the same as buying a car with no air-conditioning or heating. Sure, those are convenience features, but EVERY VEHICLE SINCE THE 80s has carried them as standards. It makes sense to be a wee bit miffed that they are not present, and basically calling people who have these problems impatient or "unable to comprehend" anything is laughably dumb.