SWTOR Deserves A Revival: More Funding, Resources and Manpower

I'm iffy on the concept of online petitions because to me, they just don't feel like they carry the weight of a proper Old School write in. Getting signed in ink petitions or a classic letter writing campaign'll stand out more since those physical letters in front of them show that people care enough to write out what they have to say and take the steps of getting that letter mailed out. With an online petition, someone can always argue the numbers are inflated.

i think there are some major problems with this petition.

at first you are just promoting the petition to swtor related pages. this will only been seen by a minority of the swtor players. but when i stopped playing swtor, i never visited one of these pages. and you missed to promote this on the german market. as EA already stated, the german market is the most important for them, even if it is smaller than the rest of the world (of course it is). maybe write an email to swtorcantina.de, the most important german page related to swtor, but nearly half dead. maybe some french guys could tell you some more pages, where you could promote it for an wider audience.

second i would disagree, that swtor is the most important scifi ip. of course star wars i a hugh trademark, but inside the scifi community it is more in a sub genre, because it is less sci than fi. still today, there are many ppl out there, just don't want to play a star wars game, because it is star wars. so don't count on the scifi community.

third the mmo genre is shrinking, also the gamestyle is a different one. and that in a way, not supporting swtor.

fourth we are having a technically hurdle to overcome. you just can't copy all the assets and scripts to a new engine, to overcome this. so it is more a question about support a dying ross, or reinventing it. so in my opinion a swtor 2.0 is the best solution for the future. and because the licence should be renewed in 2023 it would be an idea for ea, to work towards a candidate to present it to disney, by showing the ongoing support for swtor.

fifth it already was said, that change.org is a bit suspicious.


i'm totally with you, that swtor is a great game. the storytelling of the class stories is great and you have a lot to do. the lack of new content is a big problem, but many stuff is way harder to do, if you have to care that much about engine restrictions. i can find thouthands of reasons not to play swtor and dozents why you should play it. and you see, i'm a subscriber. but i'm more looking forward to a swtor2.0 than to a barely warmed swtor. we all will see, that 6.0 will be far away from our expectations.

i signed it, because hope dies last. but just with a spam-mail-account.

I see some misconceptions in your reply, let me correct them!

The petition isn't being solely promoted here, it's being promoted even more on Twitter as well. Beyond that, I have also shared it in the Discord servers I am in and the people there in turn spread it out further. I have even been told that the petition made its way to DeviantArt! On top of that, several of the Bioware Influencers (the content creators on YouTube, Twitch and such) have shared the petition as well amongst their respective communities. So I hope to believe the petition is being spread far and wide

Also, I didn't say it is the most important sci-fi IP, I am afraid you must have misunderstood that bit. What I said, was that, currently, SWTOR is the only Star Wars MMO out there, there are no other Star Wars MMO's active out there at the moment. It's why I believe that the game has much potential, because it sits on a huge IP, not the most important sci-fi one, but definitely one of the biggest. Because you have to admit it, Star Wars is huge and therefore a perfect platform to do stuff with.

As to the MMO genre, while it is shrinking, did it stop Bioware from producing Anthem? If they made that game and invested money into it, they have to expect it to be profitable.

As to the technical part, yes, a new engine would be great but unlikely as a scenario to occur. There is too little time to redesign SWTOR. However, that doesn't mean that the devs can't work with what they have right now. There is still a lot that could be accomplished on the current engine, despite people keep criticising it. I have read once that much of that critique is frankly unjustified.

As to change.org being suspicious, I had no idea. But I'd argue that anything these days can be suspicious, it's simply part of the age. Facebook for example, hundreds of millions of users were duped, and still people keep using Facebook. Instagram and WhatsApp are bought by Facebook and people still use those apps too. So it all comes down to perception I think.

i think you misunderstood me.
i said, that the petition was promoted on swtor related pages. this means not swtor.com. it means pages with content about swtor. so the 2 most important pages in my mind, would be dulfy and vulkk. when i'm chatting with some of the members of guilds i'm in, more than the half don't know any of it. so just spreading it around on pages, made for swtor players, would mostly just reach them. to get an impact, you would need a wider audience. more than the actual players of swtor.

yes, you didn't wrote that stuff with the star wars ip. it was another user.

anthem has nothing to do with an mmo. it is not an open world were you can meet random ppl and decide to do stuff together or fight against each other. here you just have an social hub to see others. the rest is not open to all. and it goes in the way, ea already said some time ago. the playership just want fast action. get into the game, have some fun and get out. your friends are already in a raid? okay. so take over a free slot and when your mum calls them for lunch, get out and let the ki do the stuff. it is not an mmo. it is a rpg with a limited multiplayer-part. hugh difference.

i also don't think that swtor will get a new engine. i expect a new sw mmo. and who says, that this is not in development since some years? the majority of projects in development are not announced. also the latest sw game canceled, could be a hint, that there is a different project in the pipeline, way sooner than expected.

for me, there is a difference between your examples and change.org. but let us don't care about anymore. i'm with you, that we all are sharing our information freely every day. even just by walking through the cities with our cellphones in the pocket.

and i don't want to criticise your intention of doing something for the project, and i support it doing so, but told my opinion about it and why i think, it is a fight against mills.

so i'm more for a new star wars mmo, than keeping swtor. something like star citizen wanted to be, without scamming people with lies

And you missed to promote this on the german market. as EA already stated, the german market is the most important for them, even if it is smaller than the rest of the world (of course it is). maybe write an email to swtorcantina.de, the most important german page related to swtor, but nearly half dead. maybe some french guys could tell you some more pages, where you could promote it for an wider audience.

Speaking of, I just found out that this article exists on buffed.de! http://www.buffed.de/SWTOR-Star-Wars...mpression=true

While I do see what you mean, it is simply not practical to do it otherwise. Currently we have 850 signatures from all across the globe. Had I wanted to achieve the same effect I would have to had booked a flight from Europe to the states, gather signatures there hoping to find some SWTOR fans. Then I'd have to fly to every single area in the world, Asia, back to Europe, etc etc to gather the signatures. I would have had to quit college for that period of time, leave my family behind for those weeks and invest an incredible amount of money in travel. In this era, online petitions can reach a lot more people, in much more remote area's.

Again, I understand what you mean, but I believe that it all rests on personal perception. You perceive paper petitions has having more credibility and value, but ask the same question to a present-day 18 years old and you'll get an entirely different answer and view. They'll perceive the paper petition as inefficient and weird to do it that way, while seeing online petitions as the normal way to go about it. Times have shifted and sadly perceptions don't shift along as easily. Though that is a completely different subject and I don't want to derail my own thread :P