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RafaelPeretz
09.09.2018 , 08:09 AM | #101
They should compensate the removal of DR while stunned.
Either by shortening the cd on breaker, or let deflection be used while stun and give it a higher damage reduction.
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Rafiknoll
09.09.2018 , 08:10 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by invertioN View Post
Sounds like you have a lot of insight on sin dcds. I'd love to see some solo ranked gameplay from you.
Solo ranked is probably the most inaccurate measurement of skill these days due to hackers and mat farmers. The best measurements are probably TR and regs (though TR also has farmers), and after these I guess there is OWPVP or dueling, but seriously? SR? You really wanna start discussing all the ways this game mode is problematic?

And see above what Trixxie said about balancing regs and ranked. The fact that sins are not yet as good as the FOTM classes is not enough reason to make them OP in regs.

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DzastinBiberi
09.09.2018 , 11:11 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by invertioN View Post
Stay on topic please.

BW, it's time to buff assassins. I propose making cc immunity on deflection as base for the dps specs.
According to BW, sins were OP and after that, nerfed to the ground.

They aint buffing them.

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EnzoForMe
09.09.2018 , 12:45 PM | #104
Shadows became a free kill in solo ranked after stun DR was removed. It’s clear as day for anyone that queues solos. Snipers, mercs, maras, even operatives eat through shadows in solos. They need more survivability.

A top shadow can be viable alternative in TR hardswaps to a carnage Mara but they’re still a distant second. They’re less versatile and easier to kill in TR than maras.

Shadow is a class I would love to get a couple more survivability tools, they’d have a high skill cap in TR and low slash is such a good ability for swaps. And I’d like them to be more viable in solos.
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Jinre_the_Jedi
09.09.2018 , 04:50 PM | #105
Deception and Darkness survivability is ok, it's still lacking relative to what other melee dps have, but they make up for that in crowd control utility.


Hatred could definitely use a buff defensively though.

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Mikazen
09.09.2018 , 06:27 PM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by EnzoForMe View Post
Shadows became a free kill in solo ranked after stun DR was removed. It’s clear as day for anyone that queues solos. Snipers, mercs, maras, even operatives eat through shadows in solos. They need more survivability.
Finally somebody who is actually understanding the game. I didn't read all posts here because no one who is actually decent on Shadow/Sin (expect Krea) is writing here but I wrote also sht about PvE while we are here in a pvp case. Sin just got over 5.0 ruined and absolutly nerfed and everyone who is maining this class and playing before 5.0 should agree with it

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DzastinBiberi
09.27.2018 , 11:05 PM | #107
At 5.0 Dec sins were perfect, their dps burst was on pair with Mara's. Good sins could kill their enemy real quick if they knew how to time their stuns and dps properly.

Now there's only a few players still playing it (good one's), while others went for Mercs and Mara's.

Sure there are sins/shadows in warzones, but most of them are not good with it.

I agree about Hatred sins, they do need some improvements when it comes to defs cause they havent been buffed since I started to play this game.

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Lundorff
09.28.2018 , 11:51 AM | #108
Sin is just pointless at the moment. Against people that know how to focus (double stun, force break and then net) the class is simply way to fragile. That each match (SR) tend to have 1 or 2 mercs with net is just... meh.

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DuHavok
09.29.2018 , 12:50 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Lundorff View Post
Sin is just pointless at the moment. Against people that know how to focus (double stun, force break and then net) the class is simply way to fragile. That each match (SR) tend to have 1 or 2 mercs with net is just... meh.

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DavidAtkinson
09.29.2018 , 05:27 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by Lundorff View Post
Sin is just pointless at the moment. Against people that know how to focus (double stun, force break and then net) the class is simply way to fragile. That each match (SR) tend to have 1 or 2 mercs with net is just... meh.
I just cannot forget the patch notes when it said that " Deception is overperforming and needsa nerf" sentence... MY GAD

When a developer team writes something like that about a class/spec that was totally competitive and on par with fury's DPS, you can guess how well they understand their own game mechanics.

Look at sins today in this meta of electronets, non stop stuns and slows.... Yes, indeed, they aren't far from the trash can. Vigi jugg is a much better choice at the moment.