Time to merge the US servers... again. Primetime window getting smaller and smaller.

Carrying on conversation someone else started is common practice on forums, what are you even talking about. Initiating conversation in RL doesn't just stop the minute the initiator leaves the room, unless nobody cared about it in the first place or they reached a conclusion hence further discussion wasn't necessary.

If you're getting annoyed by all the pvp talk help us find and advertise solutions to BW so they can fix the issues so people don't have to complain anymore. That's what we're trying to do here.

People who dont pvp or hate pvp just keeps coming over here to complain about us complaining, which is helping nobody forward.
The latest merge we had was done 100 times better than the first merges we had back around 2012. They didn't take subscribers or inactive players in account AT ALL back then and just transferred everyone on a one already-existing server. For one this killed your mail, and didn't take player activity in account at all when name conflicts came up. A lv1 character nobody had logged on for years took your max level sub name with hundreds on game hours on it just because the lv1 already existed on the server everyone was dumped on. (I lost my first charcter's name to a lv23 jugg who never logged on during the next 5+ years)
The latest merge was done so much better anyone who went trough the first one is not complaining nearly this hard, because they improved lots to make it fair for as many people as possible this time around.

Server localization support dropping was bad for everyone, I haven't seen anyone disagreeing with that statement.

Neither here nor there. I'd certainly hope that between 2012 and 2017 they'd have worked out some issues to make the mergers go more smoothly. With the most recent move, regardless of how much better it was, their actions made for a lot of panicked server transfers before the move and people who were unhappy about being lumped in with servers of very different player culture.

It's not my job to support someone else's position, and "I have proof, trust me" isn't a very valid defense. if you have proof, provide it, then nobody can say "where's your proof", right?

As to solutions, nothing that I've read makes PvP relevant, but does exactly what I suggested it does: "Treat us like snowflakes, and they will come". Except that, after years of being treated like snowflakes, they're not coming, or we wouldn't be having this discussion in a thread revolving around queue times for PvP necessitating a server merge.

Why do you people bother? This person feels that pvp players asking for changes that make their pvp experience better and disliking changes that make it worse is "asking to be treated like a special snowflake" while he's disliking changes that made his game experience worse and would prefer to get changes that make his experience better. In addition he seems to have a beef with Trixxie that has nothing to do with this thread. I don't think anything productive will come out of this anymore.

Some users are just prone to go trough a mini-panic no matter the game or system if there is going to be a shift that affects everyone in game. There really isn't anything they can do to avoid that, especially in swtor since their original user system they launched the game with was extremely character-individualistic, meaning we had literally nothing shareable between characters on that account: no server transfers, no legacy gear, no legacy perks or legacy system at all, no account bank, no names, no group finder, nothing. You could mail an unbound item to your alt, that was it. You had to gather all 50 datacrons on all your characters separately if you wanted the stat boosts on all of them.
BW has done so many convenience changes for accounts over the years it's baffling to think how barren the system was back then, and how much better it is now, and it's really unfortunate newer players don't know this and just think BW has been sitting on it's hands for 7+ years and should figured their game out by now. They've been actively figuring it out, we had none of this at launch.

Anyway. People are people and some users just panic when going trough any kind of change in their current life.

Merging wouldn't be constantly on the table if the MMO part of the game would have been figured out better. We wouldn't need to discuss merges if they could figure out how to share que instances between servers. It's been suggested for years so I'm just going to assume the engine cant support cross-server que support since still literally nothing can be shared between servers without without physically moving you character/stuff to another place.

If we'd get cross-server que it'd literally fix population issues immediately, and there would be no need for any merging.
Then we'd just need give incentive for pvp lowbies to come back, since it vanished with the system changes.

You're right :\
I was being hopeful he could see past his own preferences and understand his way of living isn't the only valid one (nor mine). There should be no argument there. At this point I'm just feeding the troll.
Oh well.

What? You don't remember the infamous battlebug who gave us this gem back in pre-launch days? Sword in a box has become an acronym for gibberish for us long timers.

"Can you make sword in box light sword so sword come out when opened? then if sword is back after sword, use light saber on box, and saber will be boxed after sword is out"

LoL, Never heard of it. I wasn’t able to be here prelaunch due to regional restrictions. But that is some funny ****

I'm not really sure what you're going on about at this point. The post of Luna's that I was responding to is in no way relevant to anything you're saying here, and the concerns people had about being thrown onto servers like Harbinger were not just histrionics or unfounded panic. And Bioware did have the option of trying to group the servers together for the merger with more respect to server culture, but they didn't.

But I've noticed you seem inclined to try to lecture me even when others are saying similar things, and seem to be doing that across numerous threads now, so I'm just going to stop reading the responses.

Yeah, I’ve decided to just ignore and then we can go back to having adult conversations,

I'm glad to see that people have taken the time over the weekend to see this from multiple points of view and understand all of the reasons for being for or against it. It's nice to see this thread still going strong with agreement and understanding on both sides of it...