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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Daxun
03.29.2012 , 07:08 PM | #781
Keep the cast sequence, mouse over, focus , etc macros out. Chat macros wouldn't hurt.

Keep them with the addons, the cross server LFG tool, and all the other crap that people think they need in every MMO just because WOW is the only one they've ever played and are used to... Out of this game.

Go play Rift if you want a wow clone with a different skin, the last game that was ruined by all the jonny-come-latelies that cried and cried until they got their "features"...

BW, go ask Trion how that all worked out. They drove off the players that were enjoying the uniqueness to cater to people who ended up leaving for the next WOW expansion anyways...
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Daxun
03.29.2012 , 07:12 PM | #782
Quote: Originally Posted by denpic View Post
This whole debate reminds me of history
When ignorant illiterate people use to burn books because they were perceived as evil
Like the people against macros they show little understanding of macros
I put this down to not being able to write macro themselves so
They don't want anyone to have them because if they knew how to write them
And how they function they would understand that there's nothing to fear
I write more code in a day than most have probably written in their lives...

I don't want macros...

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Marlon
03.29.2012 , 07:52 PM | #783
Quote: Originally Posted by denpic View Post
This whole debate reminds me of history
When ignorant illiterate people use to burn books because they were perceived as evil
Like the people against macros they show little understanding of macros
I put this down to not being able to write macro themselves so
They don't want anyone to have them because if they knew how to write them
And how they function they would understand that there's nothing to fear
I had never used macros before I played this game. I have a key pad and mouse that are both fully programmable with macros. It took me 10 mins to learn the basics of macros and about another 5 to implement them. In the end I only use 3, and all the involve ctrl+1 to ensure that my comp goes for the same target as my juggernaut otherwise he draws a lot of threat.

All i can see macros doing is stopping the high level characters from getting ripped apart from lower levels in PVP. It's not about being fair it's about winning at any cost.

Macros are the SWTOR equivilent of camping in COD.
They're not cheating, but they are cheap.

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azmundai
03.29.2012 , 08:20 PM | #784
Quote: Originally Posted by _compton_ View Post
Bottom line, macros, particularly in a PvP scenario and particularly in concert with focus, should be supported and available to those who wish to utilize them.
No.

It gives too much of advantage to people with entirely too much time on their hands.
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denpic
03.29.2012 , 08:42 PM | #785
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlon View Post
I had never used macros before I played this game. I have a key pad and mouse that are both fully programmable with macros. It took me 10 mins to learn the basics of macros and about another 5 to implement them. In the end I only use 3, and all the involve ctrl+1 to ensure that my comp goes for the same target as my juggernaut otherwise he draws a lot of threat.

All i can see macros doing is stopping the high level characters from getting ripped apart from lower levels in PVP. It's not about being fair it's about winning at any cost.

Macros are the SWTOR equivilent of camping in COD.
They're not cheating, but they are cheap.
So if I'm using adrenals and reusable medipacks
"to win at all costs" that's perfectly fine its accepted practice in game not everyone uses them but it sure puts me at a greater advantage then somebody who doesn't

Whats the diff with macros

I have yet to see anyone give a decent reason as to them not being in game
Also by not allowing macros its limiting to the players and can only be bad for the game in the long run

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Apollonel
03.29.2012 , 09:17 PM | #786
TLDR. but i blindly agree.

my argument is... got 35 keybinds.
half of which do similar things.
macros would fix that somewhat.

simple macros like:

if target is hostile cast X, if target is friendly cast Y.
or if skill X on cooldown, cast skill Y.
mouseover would also help a lot.
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Melacon
03.29.2012 , 09:19 PM | #787
Quote: Originally Posted by azmundai View Post
No.

It gives too much of advantage to people with entirely too much time on their hands.
Kinda like people who have more time to play shouldn't be more progressed right?

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Codename_Quincy
03.29.2012 , 09:27 PM | #788
thumbs down to /autoplay (macros)

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SweetNausea
03.29.2012 , 09:43 PM | #789
Quote: Originally Posted by azmundai View Post
It gives too much of advantage to people with entirely too much time on their hands.
Kind of like gear? Progression shouldn't be allowed either, amirite?

OT: I'd really love mouse-over functionality.

I'd also love a non-awful UI, but at least they're working on that.

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Groncho
03.29.2012 , 09:56 PM | #790
Quote: Originally Posted by compunerd View Post
THis logic is terrible. It isn't cheating if the IU allows it. In WoW, macros are allowed, with rules. One example of such a rule is that there cannot be delays in macros. Another is that moves the reset the GCD can't be coupled into a single key stroke. These rules are enforced, simply, by not allowing the functionality in the UI. It's hardly cheating to make full use of a UI.

The purpose of macros is to maximize quickslot space. There are so many abilities that keeping them all efficiently arrayed across the available quickslot space is difficult at best. It's not such a big issue in PvE where mobs remain stationary. In PvP, where targets are constantly running around, the lack of macros is a killer.

In all honesty, I love TOR so far. That being said, I will definitely return to WoW and cancel my TOR sub if macros aren't implemented. Since all 3 other members of my family play together, I can't afford to pay for both games. I am primarily a PvP player and, without macros in TOR, WoW becomes by far the more entertaining game.
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