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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Raggok
12.28.2011 , 12:31 PM | #371
Quote: Originally Posted by Erazimus View Post
I disagree with the OP, I've managed to almost master my abilities using the buttons 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 and then I have to manually push one on a 2nd row but that is all
I need, if that gives me an advantage and you a disadvantage so be it.
LOL, you really need to learn to remap your binds rather than using the defaults. You aren't helping the "anti-macro" argument with your post.
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Jurisnoctis
12.28.2011 , 12:31 PM | #372
Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke View Post
Dealing in absolutes is absolutely wrong.

See what I did there.



Macros help those who are utterly horribad in PvP be competitive or better.

They also help those be pretty lazy in game.

These may be the same people 2 or 3 months later screaming that this game sucks and is too easy or boring.

Sooooo, no macros. They really are not needed.
Well I actually don't care if the bads are boosted to mediocre by macros, I'd still roll them.

I care about my higher level play. Sure that's selfish, but I'm not one who would cater to bads or whiners.

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ajjw
12.28.2011 , 12:32 PM | #373
Quote: Originally Posted by Jurisnoctis View Post
For the purpose of argument, I suggest the following.

NO MACROS IN SWTOR. OR BINDINGS

Every Ability must be used by either the console commands:

/use Retaliation

OR

By manually clicking the spellbook.

Only BADS and LAZY people need to have bindings. Any REAL PVPer and LONG TERM PLAYER THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT knows that BINDINGS require NO SKILL compared to TYPING IN CONSOLE or CLICKING YOUR SPELLBOOK!

Will we settle at this compromise? No Macros make you guys happy. No Bindings will make me happy. Can we settle?
Funny thing is you'd sometimes actually do this in FFXI as it could be quicker to type out a spell than find the right macro page on the fly with the aweful UI :P
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NightHawke
12.28.2011 , 12:32 PM | #374
Quote: Originally Posted by _compton_ View Post
Honestly, the majority of the people I've seen post in this thread opposing macros are casual PvPers with no real concept of a macros actual function, and simply don't want to see them implemented because they could not use them effectively and it would only widen the disparity between the best, and everyone else.

Arguing with them is fruitless, most of these completely negative posters will remain stubbornly obstinate regardless of the information you make available to them.
Can't be a casual PvP when I play on a world pvp server, can I?

Hmmm...

Oh and I am ignorant too?


Come on man, you are dealing in generalizations, as there are some good remarks going on, along with some serious trollage.
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ajjw
12.28.2011 , 12:33 PM | #375
Quote: Originally Posted by Untallow View Post
Hooray for binding? Doesn't mean you're not:

a) Lazy
or
b) Bad

If you crusade for macros, it really is one or the other.
You really are insufferable. I sincerely hope you are not so stubborn and close-minded in real life as if you are I pity those who have to put up with you.
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warkat
12.28.2011 , 12:33 PM | #376
The only reason addons/macros and literally thousands of different nice features WoW has is because BW spent all its money on voice actors and servers to hold the 40 gigs of each copy...I honestly see this game dead in 6 months, The PvP people are dieing in a stunlock when they have 450 expertise...no diminshing returns on snare/stun/knockbacks dont know whos bright idea that was. Then to top it off the Nightmare raids are just a dps check with little to no mechanics just tank n spank faceroll your way to epics. I expected so much from this game and got a 100x crappy version of WoW sad.

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ShadowSoljer
12.28.2011 , 12:34 PM | #377
ITT: Kids from WoW that wish to see macros

I emphasize kids, because you are just that.


Edit: I forgot to add that they don't know how to pvp and are ignorant.

Edit Edit: I forgot they came from WoW, so saying they don't know how to pvp is redundant.

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sunsu
12.28.2011 , 12:34 PM | #378
Quote: Originally Posted by Jurisnoctis View Post
Hey guys. Can anyone name me any high level pvper that does not use Macros?

Except yourselves ofcourse. You are all evidently such amazingly skilled pvpers.

But for the actual ones. You know, the ones who kill you all the time. Not close, they're at 50% after a 1v1. Can you tell me? Do they use macros?
Didnt know swtor had high lvl pvp. Please tell me where I can find it as I am stuck in a huttball loop the likes you have never seen.

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Untallow
12.28.2011 , 12:36 PM | #379
Quote: Originally Posted by ajjw View Post
You really are insufferable. I sincerely hope you are not so stubborn and close-minded in real life as if you are I pity those who have to put up with you.
Ad hominum attack from someone called out for being bad/lazy?

Surprise, surprise! It's Lando in disguise!

There is no real way around it. Own your status (I'd pick lazy personally).

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Jurisnoctis
12.28.2011 , 12:37 PM | #380
Quote: Originally Posted by sunsu View Post
Didnt know swtor had high lvl pvp. Please tell me where I can find it as I am stuck in a huttball loop the likes you have never seen.
I'm sorry I'm looking towards the future of this game. My bad. I won't do that again. Neither should BioWare.


Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke View Post
Can't be a casual PvP when I play on a world pvp server, can I?

Hmmm...

Oh and I am ignorant too?


Come on man, you are dealing in generalizations, as there are some good remarks going on, along with some serious trollage.
Didn't know all the PvE/RP servers were full for you bro. I'm so sorry. I also didn't know you didn't have friends and can't level via flashpoints that pvp bothers you so much.

I feel your tragedy and it makes my soul cry.