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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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gchamplin
12.28.2011 , 12:16 PM | #341
I completely agree. Macros and hopefully UI customization in the form of addons would be a great addition to the game and would not require much work on the developers side. The current UI and lack of macros hurts everyone who would like to play at a high level, but in my opinion the current UI setup is nearly crippling for pvp healers.

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klathnagma
12.28.2011 , 12:17 PM | #342
Quote: Originally Posted by ajjw View Post
I'm doing a Master's degree Computer Systems Engineering / Software Engineering with hopes of moving on to do my PHD.

I know w.t.f code looks like. Evidently, you do not.
Ajjw actually the code he posted is a WOW working macro.

A slash command with a conditional and an action.

If you open a WOW macro editor and post his code it actually works.

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Killadrix
12.28.2011 , 12:17 PM | #343
Quote: Originally Posted by Yewcantcme View Post
WOW is terrible, there is no defending it. Is it currently the biggest MMO? Yes it is. Wanna know why? Because it can be played on a toaster oven.

Every 8-year-old punk and his friend is playing wow because it literally has no graphical requirements at all. That, combined with the fact that it caters to every care-bear on Earth, is why it is so popular, not because it is a great game, not because it has IMMENSE pvp, or because it has a great player base. The ONLY reason it is popular is because it supports one-handed, lazy, completely robotic, unimmersive gameplay that lure in all the keyboard turning pveers from across the globe.

WOW has macros because it's player base whined and moaned (like you're doing right now) for easier gameplay. Every competant person I've ever met from WOW said that they hated Macros and that they destroyed the game.
This is easily the whiniest, most untrue thing I have seen on the forums today.

But today is still young.

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Untallow
12.28.2011 , 12:17 PM | #344
Macros are crutches for baddie bads and the lazy.

I don't think anyone can rightfully disagree with this.

If you are either:

a) A baddie bad
or
b) Lazy

then I, personally, believe that you deserve to get smoked by non-bads, non-lazy PvPers, computer generated characters, 6 year-olds, and cats dancing on keyboards.

Again, for the cheap seats:

Needing Macros = Bads

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Yewcantcme
12.28.2011 , 12:18 PM | #345
Quote: Originally Posted by _compton_ View Post
Again, you are utterly misinformed. Not sure why you're associating macro usage with keyboard turning/clicking, but in WoW, the more competent the player, the more likely said player uses macros, extensively.

And WoW sets the standard for MMO hotkey PvP currently, and that's just how it is. SWTOR has the potential, but it will be unrealized potential if BW doesn't implement at the very least limited macro support.
Did you even read my post? The guy said he had to stare at his hotbar to fight... I don't know about you, but I certainly never do that, especially in pvp. He is clicking his abilities, I can guarantee you.

And the reason I associate macro-users with clickers is because 70% of the time, that is the case. They macros abilities into one spammable hotkey. Anyone with skill in movement/keybindings would not need macros to suceed in a game. Everyone here is saying that they're good players and that they don't NEED macros, they just want them. I guarantee you, any player who doesn't use macros in games, such as myself, would outscore players who do use macros in a game that doesn't support them.

The OP made this thread wanting to spark a discussion about macros, and yet anyone who posts opposing it just gets called a troll. I'm sorry, but that's not a discussion, that's a "support my cause or else" thread.
Proud Supporter of OPEN World PVP

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Audenlol
12.28.2011 , 12:18 PM | #346
Quote: Originally Posted by Avaer View Post
You have to stare at your skill bars? Are you kidding me??? Any pvper worth his salt NEVER has to look at his bars. Just because YOU can't seem to learn your class does not mean they should dumb the game down more. Its things like this that ruins most combat systems in games.

Either get better and adapt to the combat system or go back to WoW or Rift. I'm tired of games always getting destroyed by players that lack skill.
So skill is pushing the button when it lights up?


And of course I agree that you should not HAVE to look at your bars. Unfortunate that the class I play requires you to combine certain moves and clipping them can make a big difference.

Regardless of how the key is pressed (even tho 1-6 shift 1-6 , 2 side mouse buttons, and the letter "g" are all keybound) it is still a far to tedious.

Macro's would let me focus more on the game rather than the buttons is all Im saying.


p.s. Dont be so angry. And I believe the game would be better with macros, not destroyed.


pss play a op range class? Might have something to do with your attitude.

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_compton_
12.28.2011 , 12:18 PM | #347
Quote: Originally Posted by Yewcantcme View Post
WOW is terrible, there is no defending it. Is it currently the biggest MMO? Yes it is. Wanna know why? Because it can be played on a toaster oven.

Every 8-year-old punk and his friend is playing wow because it literally has no graphical requirements at all. That, combined with the fact that it caters to every care-bear on Earth, is why it is so popular, not because it is a great game, not because it has IMMENSE pvp, or because it has a great player base. The ONLY reason it is popular is because it supports one-handed, lazy, completely robotic, unimmersive gameplay that lure in all the keyboard turning pveers from across the globe.

WOW has macros because it's player base whined and moaned (like you're doing right now) for easier gameplay. Every competant person I've ever met from WOW said that they hated Macros and that they destroyed the game.
Highly vague, highly generalized, broad, bigoted, jaded, unsubstantiated, ignorant and for the most part, utterly irrelevant. Graphics =/= gameplay. You are stating opinion as fact and making statements you cannot possibly support.

You've made a fool of yourself here, with no encouragement from anyone else.

You clearly have not spoken with any competent WoW PvPers.

And finally, the only person I accused of trolling said, essentially "Lrn2play, GG". That is the very definition of trolling. That is not constructive in any way, that is not a rational argument, that is not conducive to constructive discourse, that is trolling and I identified it as such. Next.

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Yewcantcme
12.28.2011 , 12:19 PM | #348
Quote: Originally Posted by Untallow View Post
Macros are crutches for baddie bads and the lazy.

I don't think anyone can rightfully disagree with this.

If you are either:

a) A baddie bad
or
b) Lazy

then I, personally, believe that you deserve to get smoked by non-bads, non-lazy PvPers, computer generated characters, 6 year-olds, and cats dancing on keyboards.

Again, for the cheap seats:

Needing Macros = Bads
/sign lol
Proud Supporter of OPEN World PVP

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ShadowSoljer
12.28.2011 , 12:20 PM | #349
Quote: Originally Posted by _compton_ View Post
Highly vague, highly generalized, broad, bigoted, jaded, unsubstantiated, ignorant and for the most part, utterly irrelevant. Graphics =/= gameplay. You are stating opinion as fact and making statements you cannot possibly support.

You've made a fool of yourself here, with no encouragement from anyone else.
WoW is full of whining little kids such as yourself, please go back to WoW where you can have everything you want if you cry enough.

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Groncho
12.28.2011 , 12:20 PM | #350
Quote: Originally Posted by sunsu View Post
Bad players must have macros. If you cant function without them invest in a gamepad as most "competitive"
gamers do.

I find it hard to believe you are as competitive as you say you are and are still on m&k.
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