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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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ajjw
12.28.2011 , 12:11 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowSoljer View Post
I already have my Masters degree in Computer Systems Engineering / Software Engineering and have already accomplished my goals of a PHD. that is code.
Confirmation of a troll. Welcome to my ignore list dear.
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Audenlol
12.28.2011 , 12:11 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke View Post
I like this guy. More if he put me on ignore because of my views.

I love how he waits for his cooldowns, to click with his mouse. Yes, gotta have macros! Ummm no /sarcasm.

And how many people is this majority I keep hearing about??

Perhaps you are use to the grandma-type style of gameplay that is the swtor combat system.

However, (tho i asssume you play an easy class) mauraders actually have to push certain keys in order to do good dps, sad I know, and not difficult, but annoying.

Not sure why you assume I click, since even when setting the key queue to zero, abilities dont fire off thus ending up in poor dps or pvp death.

Also, I dont ignore someone because of their views, but how can you reason with someone who thinks the macro's the op is asking for makes the game "easier" or "lazier".

Cant argue against stupid.

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ShadowSoljer
12.28.2011 , 12:11 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by ajjw View Post
Confirmation of a troll. Welcome to my ignore list dear.
Confirmation of an idiot. Welcome to the rest of everyone who agrees with macros. =)

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_compton_
12.28.2011 , 12:12 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by Yewcantcme View Post
+1,000,000

I'm so damn tired of people unable to play games without everything being handed to them.

Honestly... everyone in support of macros in this thread KNOWS they only want macros so that they can play with one hand. Macros take the skill out of a game - they destroy combat, make the game feel robotic, and completely ruin the gaming experience.

As for the person you quoted, Avaer, I completely agree with you on your post. I NEVER look at my skill bars when pvping unless it's to check my Cooldowns on abilities. It seems to me that the only reason he is looking at his skill bars, and thinking that Marauder is a gimped class (LMFAO) is because he is clicking his abilities.
Again, you are utterly misinformed. Not sure why you're associating macro usage with keyboard turning/clicking, but in WoW, the more competent the player, the more likely said player uses macros, extensively.

And WoW sets the standard for MMO hotkey PvP currently, and that's just how it is. SWTOR has the potential, but it will be unrealized potential if BW doesn't implement at the very least limited macro support.

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klathnagma
12.28.2011 , 12:12 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke View Post
And people think I dont understand macros?

Let me break it down more...
Macro button F
Execute quickslot 10;
Execute ability jack you up;
Pause 1.1;
Execute ability jack up up more;
Execute emote /laugh;
Pause 1.1;
Execute ability heal me I am hurt;
End

Automated. Any questions?
Now we all know you don't understand in-game macros, thank you.

This may be a keyboard macro that - as I said - already exists and is supported by Bioware, but It's not at all an in-game macros.

http://www.razerzone.com/swtor/keyboard


In the in-game macro you could do quickslot 10, and /laugh as they don't share GDC. As you see completely game breaking and a huge advantage.

I know no multi player game that allows timers in macros.

Said that, if in-game macros would do what you have already wrote, of course I would also be against them, so I do really understand your concern.

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Yewcantcme
12.28.2011 , 12:13 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by _compton_ View Post
Anyone playing above 2000 MMR in WoW, either Arena or RBG would absolutely dominate the majority of the SWTOR PvPing population that I've seen. 2000 MMR, by the way, is mid-range.

I'm not sure where you associated Macros with keyboard turning, but the opposite is the truth.

If you're talking about MMO PvP, WoW is the ONLY place you'll find it played at the highest level currently. The game is hugely popular, established over many years, has a huge population and PvPing community - and the most extensively developed competitive PvP scene in the MMO market, by far. The game also supports Macros, which are considered absolutely vital to compete at higher levels. WoW arena was a part of the MLG circuit a couple of years ago. I'd like to see SWTOR PvP be similarly popular/competitive or even more so, which is why I'm advocating for macros.
WOW is terrible, there is no defending it. Is it currently the biggest MMO? Yes it is. Wanna know why? Because it can be played on a toaster oven.

Every 8-year-old punk and his friend is playing wow because it literally has no graphical requirements at all. That, combined with the fact that it caters to every care-bear on Earth, is why it is so popular, not because it is a great game, not because it has IMMENSE pvp, or because it has a great player base. The ONLY reason it is popular is because it supports one-handed, lazy, completely robotic, unimmersive gameplay that lure in all the keyboard turning pveers from across the globe.

WOW has macros because it's player base whined and moaned (like you're doing right now) for easier gameplay. Every competant person I've ever met from WOW said that they hated Macros and that they destroyed the game.
Proud Supporter of OPEN World PVP

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ajjw
12.28.2011 , 12:14 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Yewcantcme View Post
WOW is terrible, there is no defending it. Is it currently the biggest MMO? Yes it is. Wanna know why? Because it can be played on a toaster oven.

Every 8-year-old punk and his friend is playing wow because it literally has no graphical requirements at all. That, combined with the fact that it caters to every care-bear on Earth, is why it is so popular, not because it is a great game, not because it has IMMENSE pvp, or because it has a great player base. The ONLY reason it is popular is because it supports one-handed, lazy, completely robotic, unimmersive gameplay that lure in all the keyboard turning pveers from across the globe.

WOW has macros because it's player base whined and moaned (like you're doing right now) for easier gameplay. Every competant person I've ever met from WOW said that they hated Macros and that they destroyed the game.
The people you've met had no idea what they were talking about.

ie MANY things helped destroy WoW. Macros were certainly not one of them.
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Noend
12.28.2011 , 12:14 PM | #338
No macros

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ShadowSoljer
12.28.2011 , 12:16 PM | #339
I think everyone in this thread who has some sense of skill can agree that bumping it is probably the opposite of what we intend. We need to let this pointless thread of carebears die.

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sunsu
12.28.2011 , 12:16 PM | #340
Bad players must have macros. If you cant function without them invest in a gamepad as most "competitive"
gamers do.

I find it hard to believe you are as competitive as you say you are and are still on m&k.

Wow is how old, welcome to 2011? Might wanna keep yourself a little more informed about the progamer circuit, if youre gonna put yourself in that crowd.