Why Macros belong in TOR.

Let's talk exploits now.

Nevermind the PvP idiocies that will come out of enabling macros.


Now I have a level 10 character that I just mailed 2 million credits to.

So now I have him run in a circle with an elaborate macro to send out his pets to gather and do missions and craft different items. I just sit and wait a few days and now he is maxed in all his crew skills and level 10?

What is wrong with that? It is not hurting anyone?

Where does it end?


With all that WoW gave the MMO universe stuff, it also had some pretty awful things too. Like macros. As did SWG.

Not that this is relevant to the argument I'm trying to make, but you seem unable to move past the "automated" nature of macros and consider some of the deeper implications.

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let me try a blind shot

you are a SI or similar class that only needs 5 skills top to perform competitively, and would hate others to have an easy ride like you do because without that rtarded advantage then your "skill" wouldnt be up to the challenge

Macros are not in for several reasons:

1. Goldbots, if there is no macro support, goldbots cannot thrive, nuff said really.

2. Multiboxing in pvp, a massive problem in Rift, some would say "kill the lead"...sure thing I'll try kill the front guy while his other 4 accounts that are following me nuke me down before I even get anywhere near.

3. Skillcap, this is simply non-existent when Macros dictate everything, Rift for me was so dumb when it came to the majority of content as you could really do everything with 2-3 button binds.

4. Exploiting GCD, Macros in some games (DCUO) could bypass the GCD through glitching animations, I wouldn't doubt with the combat system in SWTOR we would see this with a macro system.

5. Opens the floodgates for hacking, yes macros are the first step towards allowing someone to manipulate there client code to allow some of the more "soft hacks" to get through undetected, not something we want for SWTOR.

I will note macros done right can work, but I don't feel they are warranted in SWTOR and on the last point, remember I only ment for soft hacks (some part of speed hacks does involve macros to trigger the hack in some cases but not all) and I have actually noted some players have found glitches and exploits to bypass the system.

Only today I saw a Sorc running around in Bounty Hunter Heavy armor, the other day I saw another Sorc running around at the speed of light constantly, but these players will likely be caught and banned, because they are using 3rd party hacks that will be detectable....It would actually be harder to catch them if there was a macro system involved.

You should not talk about macros if you don't know what they are.

If you are unable to take apart a bot and a macro, you have not enough knowledge on the issue to judge it.

Bots are coded outside the game and most likely there will be TOR bots, with or without a macro interface.

Bots don't use game's macro interfaces. In fact most bots juggle with data in memory and don't really care about what is going on in the game.

Macros don't let you do anything with your character if you are not playing it.

A limited, controlled implementation including only a few key features would not create any issues. I'm not advocating for a system that allows players to create any type of macro they want with impunity.

The title of the thread is a little broad, but I provided clarification in the OP, and in the TL;DR to a lesser extent. I see now that I was wrong to assume that people would actually read any of that. :/

A limited, controlled implementation including only a few key features would not create any issues. I'm not advocating for a system that allows players to create any type of macro they want with impunity.

The title of the thread is a little broad, but I provided clarification in the OP, and in the TL;DR to a lesser extent. I see now that I was wrong to assume that people would actually read any of that. :/