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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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GARhenus
11.01.2013 , 11:28 AM | #1001
Only valid excuse for macro is if you're missing 7 out of 10 fingers

the rest should just get comfy with manual hotkey pressing.

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DarthRaistlin
11.01.2013 , 11:30 AM | #1002
macros are for kids and girls... ****

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orryko
11.01.2013 , 11:32 AM | #1003
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
The game already allows you to keybind through your party. Why do you need a macro?

Fact is, people only want macros so they can do multiple things with one button. There is no skill involved with macros, plain and simple.

Case in point, back in the day in WoW I played rogue and had a macro that would do my full opener setup from stealth then would swap my main hand from a dagger to a sword all with the press of one button. It was the most idiotic thing ever and I abused the crap out of it. I could do a full opener with one button. Hell, back in 5.1 or 5.2 I forget which, there was two one shot macros for rogues when they got buffed. The macro literally fired off 10 abilities with one button.

Sorry but macros are stupid.
you are really bad at comprehension i see. i already said no cast sequence.

targeting, as in /target friend dispel, so when i press my hotkey, it dispels the person i intend to instead of clicking on his name plate or pressing a hotkey to target him first. same action, i am just reacting as soon as i think to do it, aka skill

mouseover....i scroll my mouse over a friendly or enemy, press my hotkey, and it performs whatever action. again...faster because i can do something as soon as i think it.

ss of high rating, or i can understand why you're against it

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JediMasterSLC
11.01.2013 , 11:39 AM | #1004
Quote: Originally Posted by orryko View Post
targeting, as in /target friend dispel, so when i press my hotkey, it dispels the person i intend to instead of clicking on his name plate or pressing a hotkey to target him first. same action, i am just reacting as soon as i think to do it, aka skill

mouseover....i scroll my mouse over a friendly or enemy, press my hotkey, and it performs whatever action. again...faster because i can do something as soon as i think it.
If asked if this could be implemented, I bet you 1000 CC their response would be something along the lines of "jeez, that would require a lot of work. Plus the engine can't handle it."

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TheronFett
11.01.2013 , 11:39 AM | #1005
Quote: Originally Posted by orryko View Post
you are really bad at comprehension i see. i already said no cast sequence.

targeting, as in /target friend dispel, so when i press my hotkey, it dispels the person i intend to instead of clicking on his name plate or pressing a hotkey to target him first. same action, i am just reacting as soon as i think to do it, aka skill

mouseover....i scroll my mouse over a friendly or enemy, press my hotkey, and it performs whatever action. again...faster because i can do something as soon as i think it.

ss of high rating, or i can understand why you're against it
Here's some comprehension for you...

la·zy [ley-zee]
adjective
1. averse or disinclined to work, activity, or exertion; indolent.

There is no need for ability macros in this game. Zero. There are no complicated sequences, no combination abilities, and no wide disparity between classes. Just because there is a GCD doesn't mean that you need to be able to activate at 100% efficiency.

It's a game of skill...and most of the skill aspect of TOR has already been dumbed down for the masses. GOOD players can click on name plates or use keybinds to target, then activate abilities. That's part of what makes them good players in the first place. If you need a macro to do what someone else can already do, you're the bad, not the other way around.

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JediMasterSLC
11.01.2013 , 11:46 AM | #1006
Quote: Originally Posted by TheronFett View Post
Here's some comprehension for you...

la·zy [ley-zee]
adjective
1. averse or disinclined to work, activity, or exertion; indolent.

There is no need for ability macros in this game. Zero. There are no complicated sequences, no combination abilities, and no wide disparity between classes. Just because there is a GCD doesn't mean that you need to be able to activate at 100% efficiency.

It's a game of skill...and most of the skill aspect of TOR has already been dumbed down for the masses. GOOD players can click on name plates or use keybinds to target, then activate abilities. That's part of what makes them good players in the first place. If you need a macro to do what someone else can already do, you're the bad, not the other way around.
smh. Do you really think clicking someone's nameplate in the ops frame (or spamming your cycle next friendly target keybind until you get to the right one) and then hitting your heal/cleanse keybind, takes any more skill than what he's suggesting? Since launch, what has been dummed down besides the resolve system? Also, arguing against "the need to be able to activate at 100% efficiency".... seriously?

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orryko
11.01.2013 , 11:57 AM | #1007
Quote: Originally Posted by TheronFett View Post
Here's some comprehension for you...

la·zy [ley-zee]
adjective
1. averse or disinclined to work, activity, or exertion; indolent.

There is no need for ability macros in this game. Zero. There are no complicated sequences, no combination abilities, and no wide disparity between classes. Just because there is a GCD doesn't mean that you need to be able to activate at 100% efficiency.

It's a game of skill...and most of the skill aspect of TOR has already been dumbed down for the masses. GOOD players can click on name plates or use keybinds to target, then activate abilities. That's part of what makes them good players in the first place. If you need a macro to do what someone else can already do, you're the bad, not the other way around.
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Arlanon
11.01.2013 , 12:59 PM | #1008
I thought about this for about 7 seconds last night while i was doing the dishes

I often use Endure Pain, Warzone Medpack, Intercede, Invincible, and Enraged Defense in succession when I dip below 25% HP. I have a separate keybinding for each, individually. Macros would let me put it all on one button.

So then I thought "Well what if I wanted to activate ONE of those?" If it was all macro'd, I wouldn't be able to. Say I just wanted to use Enraged Defense. Too bad. Anything else in the list that is off CD will get used as well.

Plus you'll get all those annoying error messages for things that ARE on CD. And think of the server droid! In his little hamster wheel, churning away to bring me those messages. I will lighten his load a little and keep my separate keybinds.

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orryko
11.01.2013 , 01:01 PM | #1009
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlanon View Post
I thought about this for about 7 seconds last night while i was doing the dishes

I often use Endure Pain, Warzone Medpack, Intercede, Invincible, and Enraged Defense in succession when I dip below 25% HP. I have a separate keybinding for each, individually. Macros would let me put it all on one button.

So then I thought "Well what if I wanted to activate ONE of those?" If it was all macro'd, I wouldn't be able to. Say I just wanted to use Enraged Defense. Too bad. Anything else in the list that is off CD will get used as well.

Plus you'll get all those annoying error messages for things that ARE on CD. And think of the server droid! In his little hamster wheel, churning away to bring me those messages. I will lighten his load a little and keep my separate keybinds.
you would just have an additional "oh ****" button to use them all at once. you could still individually use them

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Arlanon
11.01.2013 , 01:02 PM | #1010
Quote: Originally Posted by orryko
you would just have an additional "oh ****" button to use them all at once. you could still individually use them
and where would i put it