Yes they should do something more with Vaylin

No, they shouldn't have been tied to one another. But, really, Senya's death, regardless of what I said up above about her, was the only one that I found remotely tolerable. She betrays us, whether I find her reasons sympathetic or not, and she dies of injuries received in combat. Like Vaylin, she effectively dies fighting. Unlike Vaylin, we can actually give her some kindness (though, as someone said, her asking to speak to the creep who destroyed her children while she watched is a bit much, but if I ignore that, the rest isn't bad). And we also don't have to give her kindness if we don't want to.

But, getting her medical aid and throwing her in jail would have been good, too, but I'm reasonably OK with most of how it played out.

Arcann, on the other hand, dies on his knees because we choose to summarily execute him rather than take him in. DS or neutralish? Fine. LS? With no legal authority that I can see? Ugh. If he has to die there, to the goody-two-shoes Outlander, it should be because he refused to be taken in and got up one last time. Still, at least that version gave Dad lip rather than the kind of horrid, "Go, be with my brother" (I really wanted Vaylin to say, "You're forgiving HIM?!").

Yeah. I get that she was dangerous and all that, and would have been hard to contain, and would have hated being contained even if it was the only way she could live. But even the option to make the offer would have made the whole thing better. Her taking it after not using the command phrase would be even better, but so it goes. I would love it if they'd just go back and re-write the whole thing,but that's not going to happen, even if they had the staff. She wouldn't even have to live, I would just like options to treat her with actual kindness, but it's too late for that now.

At this point, I kind of think that the best thing would be to re-work the Vaylin "pet" that we got in Chapter 9 (I'm not sure exactly how that works) to be an actual companion and put her in the console. People could ignore her, it shouldn't be terribly difficult (I could be wrong on that), probably wouldn't even need to pay Ms. Loring, though I wouldn't mind a few more lines from her. I'd prefer her to get more story time, really, but with the resistance to that and the ever-shrinking resources, I'd settle for being able to just have her around and pretend she'd gotten help. Paul could pretend she joined his murderous reign. It might be a decent solution.

It doesn't provide the potential poignancy of a good bye, but I don't think cinematics or other content are really in the offing, here. We're at the point where it would be more difficult to give her a better sendoff than creating a companion. I think that type of thing is most likely something that needed to be done at the time, and live or die, I expect it's just too late to make it better.

That would be the best compromise anyone could really realistically hope for, I think. As much as I would like for parts of KOTFE and KOTET to be completely rewritten and have some decent closure there, as you say, between resistance and the dearth of dev resources it's not really happening. If there are only a few scraps of time/money available, it has to go to the overall story, bringing back existing companions and existing LIs, IMHO.

But using the model of Vaylin that they already have in the game, and sampling some of her lines for her companion barks ("You're fun," "poor Outlander," "tick-tock," "burn it to ash"...those alone would work), they could probably make her an optional companion without much fuss.

Optional is the key - they could either sell her in the Cartel Market or make her something to earn, like Darth Hexid. Those who want her would have pathways to get her and place her in their own head canoned story however they please; those who don't (I'd be among that group, myself) could ignore it.

Yeah, or I suppose an Alliance Alert could do too :P

Heh, give her a gift she doesn't like and she'll scream .. "WHY?!!!"

That would require more resources, though. I'd still like her on the base glaring at her family, assuming they're alive. Balm for my soul after all of this.

Yeah, I'd be happy (well, content, I really do hate even the base story of "mentally ill torture victim that has to die")) to let her be dead myself, but there was just too much bad in her story from beginning to end, culminating in them telling me how I should have my characters react rather than giving me options. And, with some of the lines of other characters, beyond the end. Really, all I wanted was what Scrooge wanted, the possibility for some depth of feeling for this person who was tortured for a decade, however else the player views her. After Risha and Andronikos and Theron, it's just too late for that, now.

Still, the title is "Do something more with", not "Resurrect". I'll take what I can get. I just want them to do something to make it better. A companion is my preference, but it's not the only possibility. I just think it's the simplest way, if done by mail or by terminal, especially.

They could also stop trying to blame her for everything. "Zakuul" in those lines has no more syllables, and is more accurate. Not saying not to acknowledge that she did great wrongs, but there were two tyrants before her that did so much more, but it doesn't seem to get mentioned. For instance, it's really odd to me that Risha's world didn't get attacked during Arcann's five years, especially since Vaylin seemed more focused on the Alliance and the Outlander and her mother, while Arcann specifically wanted to conquer. Let him be a redeemed tyrant, Bioware, if the player used the choice you gave for him in that way.

We don't know when that occurred, Arcann may have been the Emperor, but Vaylin was leading the attack.

That's possible, in fact arguably more likely (and certainly better), but after the way blame seemed to shift during KotET to try to make her worse than Arcann, and especially after Theron's crack, I am suspicious of comments like that. "Zakuul's fleet" would fix it.

But it's Risha, and I can't stay mad at Risha. Especially since it's likely the last lines we'll get.

I only say that because one of Risha's line suggested she went to her planet, soon after the smuggler went missing.

Let me edit! She also said things were going well until Vaylin attacked, I'd assumed there was some time. But, yeah, that doesn't mean five years worth of time, it's quite possible. I'm still suspicious of these things, though. At least they aren't common. Temple both got a whole chapter of story to be at least a little relevant in AND never bashed the Empress. I'd like more of that.