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Zerileth
01.28.2018 , 04:30 AM | #1
Why does GF MM or any mode show tank Role in Need with all flashpoints checked (23/23) and yet when I join as tank or any other role it still says role in need: tank? What is going on there? If the role is filled why doesn't group finder create the group?
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olagatonjedi
01.28.2018 , 07:00 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Zerileth View Post
Why does GF MM or any mode show tank Role in Need with all flashpoints checked (23/23) and yet when I join as tank or any other role it still says role in need: tank? What is going on there? If the role is filled why doesn't group finder create the group?
Not that confusing to understand that other tanks may be in queue before you, and they may be letting the group-start timer run and expire, thus delaying your chance.

Also, if there are more than 1 slot open in a group/finder still needing to be filled, it will wait until all slots will be filled before offering the invitation. Then, see my first point for either of the slots.

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Zerileth
01.29.2018 , 02:00 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by olagatonjedi View Post
Not that confusing to understand that other tanks may be in queue before you, and they may be letting the group-start timer run and expire, thus delaying your chance.

Also, if there are more than 1 slot open in a group/finder still needing to be filled, it will wait until all slots will be filled before offering the invitation. Then, see my first point for either of the slots.
Ok, then what's the point of Role In Need? Seriously, if it's needed the group invite should pop. I'm not talking 1 min here, I'm talking 10 mins or more. If there's tanks ahead of me... then there's no "role in need" for tanks, right? Some other role is required. How long is the timer expire? Not ten minutes....

And to you second point... if there's more than one slot needing to be filled, there should be NO RIN.... or are you guessing tank is default...because I've seen healer too.
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01.29.2018 , 08:40 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Zerileth View Post
Ok, then what's the point of Role In Need? Seriously, if it's needed the group invite should pop. I'm not talking 1 min here, I'm talking 10 mins or more. If there's tanks ahead of me... then there's no "role in need" for tanks, right? Some other role is required. How long is the timer expire? Not ten minutes....

And to you second point... if there's more than one slot needing to be filled, there should be NO RIN.... or are you guessing tank is default...because I've seen healer too.
I've even seen dps in need as well, and it didn't pop when I queued.

IMHO role in need should only be active when there's a group member missing, and as soon as you queue for the RIN it pops, otherwise makes little sense.

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JediAkemi
01.29.2018 , 04:49 PM | #5
Most likely in this case there were lots of healers and dps people queuing (enough for multiple groups) but almost no tanks - so tank shows up as the role in need and presumably stays there until most of the tankless groups are filled.

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merovejec
01.30.2018 , 02:07 AM | #6
This has to do with the Flashpoints you have tagged and maybe some of the above mentioned issues with pop expiring etc. and lastly with "in proggress" ques.

Like the GF has a role in need when the FPS is in progress but if you que without the "que in progress" box checked then you wont get the pop. For me GF pops instantly when i que the role in need everytime.
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Yezzan
01.30.2018 , 04:45 AM | #7
the only significance of the Role-in-need is to determine who gets the bonus CXP; otherwise, it makes no sense, since you do not get an instance pop, when you queue are the role-in-need.

There is no such thing as multiple groups in queue. Players are queued individually, and are in the queued based on when they queued. of course, players can queue in groups of 2-3 but but they'll still be placed in individual slots. Therefore, if there is a shortage of tanks in the queue, and a tank joins then the tank would automatically be grouped up with the first 2 DPS and healer.

There should be no role in need for Normal FPs, which is why i think its more of a way o even out the number of different roles in the queue by giving players an incentive to queue that role.

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Zerileth
01.30.2018 , 01:10 PM | #8
I hear what you guys are saying and appreciate the feedback but it still doesn't make sense. I'm queued for all FPs, and match w/ in progress... When I fill the RIN spot it should immediately pop, yet it doesn't. If tons of healers and dps are waiting... there's no reason when the tank spot is filled to delay the FP pop. Again, no offense but I've yet to see a valid explanation for this delay.

If the RIN is filled, it should pop a flashpoint. Ah well. I don't think we'll get clarification. Just seems sad to me.
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01.30.2018 , 03:44 PM | #9
I've noticed it didn't always update when it should, so if tank was the role in need when you opened the window, it may not be the role in need when you actually queue. Basically, it's buggy.

I agree though, if you queue for everything as the role in need, you should get an instapop.
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02.01.2018 , 06:55 AM | #10
Do you have an excessive amount of people on ignore. If the only healer in q is on your ignore list it will show tank in need but never pop cause you ignored the only healer in q
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