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Now give us all Cross Faction maps

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Evolixe
01.13.2018 , 02:18 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak View Post
I do support this request, however there is a monkey wrench that will probably prevent it from ever happening: Warzones do have a story behind them...

The short version is that in ACW, Denova, Voidstar, and Hypergate both factions are attempting to gain a strategic advantage over the other. Do all the WZs become "simulations" like when both sides are the same faction?

OPG and Yavin also have story behind them but have been tailored to be faction neutral and therefore cross-faction works.
Look, I understand where you are coming from. I really do.

But at this point in time, given all the problems separating factions creates, it shouldn't stop us from making this change. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make 100% sense story wise, it's a mechanical change that can and will literally positively affect the games population and overall state.
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Rafiknoll
01.13.2018 , 02:23 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak View Post
I do support this request, however there is a monkey wrench that will probably prevent it from ever happening: Warzones do have a story behind them...

The short version is that in ACW, Denova, Voidstar, and Hypergate both factions are attempting to gain a strategic advantage over the other. Do all the WZs become "simulations" like when both sides are the same faction?

OPG and Yavin also have story behind them but have been tailored to be faction neutral and therefore cross-faction works.
The story can be worked through easily. Just pick one of the wargame scenraios used when it is imp vs imp or rep vs rep. Most of them don't sound too imperial or republic, so it will make no problem.

Even if there are few inconsistencies, well, the current droid vendor in hypergate and voidstar will tell EVERYONE
"off to destroy the republic?", and you have 50% for satele shan to announce "you are unbeatable" in imp versus imp warzones. [And while we are at it, Jedi consulars and smugglers have Risha's and zenith's random comment on Hoth accidentally swapped, speaking of illogical lines ] Nobody cares about these, so they can survive a random line or two making less sense

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Aeneas_Falco
01.13.2018 , 02:44 PM | #13
I'm in favor of the factions remaining separate because sometimes I enjoy playing against Imps when I'm on a Rep toon or vice versa, but I'd love to see the system implement an across the board cross faction queue if the number of people in the queue (particularly Reps) was small enough.

Cross faction when the number of people in the queue was low would increase pop times, but people who prefer separate faction PVP can still get their Rep or Imp killing in when the population was there to support it.

Tl;dr version: Why not both?

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Evolixe
01.13.2018 , 02:51 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeneas_Falco View Post
I'm in favor of the factions remaining separate because sometimes I enjoy playing against Imps when I'm on a Rep toon or vice versa, but I'd love to see the system implement an across the board cross faction queue if the number of people in the queue (particularly Reps) was small enough.

Cross faction when the number of people in the queue was low would increase pop times, but people who prefer separate faction PVP can still get their Rep or Imp killing in when the population was there to support it.

Tl;dr version: Why not both?
That would kind of defeat the purpose. Which is to balance out the factions not just in numbers, but also in strength.
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Kurj
01.13.2018 , 03:01 PM | #15
/signed in triplicate. Itís such an obvious solution.
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omaan
01.13.2018 , 04:06 PM | #16
Forget about it. My dark sith will never ally with this retched republic. You are doomed? For the dark side

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Rafiknoll
01.13.2018 , 04:34 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by omaan View Post
Forget about it. My dark sith will never ally with this retched republic. You are doomed? For the dark side
If there is an RP problem, then it is already odd that a light sith would be matched with a dark sith rather than against them. Light sith are practically lighter than light Jedi, and a light hunter can literally betray and kill a sith lord for the sake of the republic.
No, PVP was never about logical role-playing. It would make more sense to make PVP DvL based and not faction based if that was the case...

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Aeneas_Falco
01.13.2018 , 04:38 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
That would kind of defeat the purpose. Which is to balance out the factions not just in numbers, but also in strength.
On Star Forge it's fairly balanced in the latter, so I don't really see across the board cross-faction queues as necessary for either side to get wins. On that server if you solo pug equally on both factions (and I do) the wins and losses are more or less the same regardless of what faction you queue on. Of course sometimes one faction can go on a run but in the end it seems to balance out. I think Reps win slightly more often, usually because they have more heals or skanks, but not to the extent that the devs need to step in and fix things. If Reps have an edge it is very slight.

One faction completely dominating the other is mainly a Satele Shan thing, where Imps usually ROFLstomp Pubs, and that could be solved by some good PVPers starting to queue on Rep side toons. Instead everyone stacks Imp and worsens the problem.

I'm in favor of across the board cross faction queues but only to reduce queue times when necessary.

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Evolixe
01.13.2018 , 04:41 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeneas_Falco View Post
Imp domination is mainly a <every other server> thing, and that could be solved by some good PVPers starting to queue on Rep side toons. Instead everyone stacks Imp and worsens the problem.
You don't say? The problem is that isn't going to happen and crossfaction queues fix the problem in a heartbeat.
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Aeneas_Falco
01.13.2018 , 04:42 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
You don't say? The problem is that isn't going to happen and crossfaction queues fix the problem in a heartbeat.
It isn't a problem on every server. Sorry, but that's just not the case on Star Forge.