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Please remove bolster from ranked warzones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Please remove bolster from ranked warzones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thalnar
12.31.2017 , 02:25 AM | #1
The whole purpose of RANKED WARZONES is for people with higher gear to go and do ranked warzones vs people of like gear. there is no reason to have bolster in the highest tier of pvp, that defeats the purpose. now there is currently a bug which either you don't know about or YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT... and before you say anything like, we pay attention and try to fix all bugs.... thats some ******** bioware. theres bugs in this game from DAY 1. now this bug i refer to, is actually an exploit, players are wearing certain lower level relics which boost to levels HIGHER than those that are 248, and are doing MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF EXTRA DAMAGE. item rating 50 relics in a ranked warzone that make damage outputs rediculously high, and therefor exploiting the game, either fix this bug, or ban anyone who uses these relics as they are cheating. they know its an exploit, and they do it anyway, and they are ruining ranked pvp for those of us who follow the rules. i'm getting tired of you guys taking our money then telling us to **** off if theres an issue. fix the *********** game, or you'll stop getting my money, and peoples money who are tired of your ignorance. theres some ****** games coming out soon, and if you don't step up your game and make this one right, people will be leaving in droves. and you'll have only yourselves to blame.

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MackPol
12.31.2017 , 06:29 AM | #2
It does need attention. That bug definately needs fixing asap especially now when Team Ranked que is busy.
Tho its a bit funny when you see them Apex, All-Galaxy crowd using relic bug to beat mat farmers

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Tharianus
12.31.2017 , 07:15 AM | #3
So you need to ban all sage/sorc healers who used the selfheal bug in ranked until patch 5.6.1, too ....

There are a lot of issues...
- Stealth trolling until acid
- Balancing
- Charge bugs
- buggy arenas
- now relic/bolster bug
.


Bioware let it happen so there are and will be people who try to abuse such bugs/exploit in order to win...
Such things are annyoing and only BW can fix this....

the Question in the end is:
Are you really a good PvPer if you need to abuse a fotm line up or a bug to win?
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omaan
12.31.2017 , 07:19 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Thalnar View Post
The whole purpose of RANKED WARZONES is for people with higher gear to go and do ranked warzones vs people of like gear. there is no reason to have bolster in the highest tier of pvp, that defeats the purpose. now there is currently a bug which either you don't know about or YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT... and before you say anything like, we pay attention and try to fix all bugs.... thats some ******** bioware. theres bugs in this game from DAY 1. now this bug i refer to, is actually an exploit, players are wearing certain lower level relics which boost to levels HIGHER than those that are 248, and are doing MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF EXTRA DAMAGE. item rating 50 relics in a ranked warzone that make damage outputs rediculously high, and therefor exploiting the game, either fix this bug, or ban anyone who uses these relics as they are cheating. they know its an exploit, and they do it anyway, and they are ruining ranked pvp for those of us who follow the rules. i'm getting tired of you guys taking our money then telling us to **** off if theres an issue. fix the *********** game, or you'll stop getting my money, and peoples money who are tired of your ignorance. theres some ****** games coming out soon, and if you don't step up your game and make this one right, people will be leaving in droves. and you'll have only yourselves to blame.
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Rafiknoll
12.31.2017 , 09:16 AM | #5
You said item rating 50, but did you maybe mean lvl 50 relics? Are these specific unobtainable old relics or would any relic of low rating work? I ask because there are those junk (46) relics that you get for the intro mission of PVP, and I am quite certain they only bind on equip, so you should be able to easily counter the bug by using it, then the only unfair thing about it would be the fact that is unknown to people, which is solved by time and general chat.

Yes, I know it is no excuse and the bug needs to be fixed, but in the meantime, if possible let's use a temporary solution rather than be taken advantage of...

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kissingaiur
12.31.2017 , 09:16 AM | #6
The dps output of wind relics (the ones that bolster stupid) are only slightly better in dps output over 248s. For healers who have good uptime 248s are better. If you go parse with both sets you will notice they are extremely comparable.

These relics are comparable and tbh itís a good thing. That means new players donít have to spend hours on grinding for relics but just buy them on the gtn for 100k relics and be set. One less thing to spend billions of coms on.
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DavidAtkinson
12.31.2017 , 09:49 AM | #7
I see nothing wrong here...

Those relics gave me extra 3k HP but no extra damage from what I've seen.. My crits and big hits got slightly smaller.
Like the poster above me said, they are good for players who are caught in the gear grind.

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LeglessChair
12.31.2017 , 10:52 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafiknoll View Post
You said item rating 50, but did you maybe mean lvl 50 relics? Are these specific unobtainable old relics or would any relic of low rating work? I ask because there are those junk (46) relics that you get for the intro mission of PVP, and I am quite certain they only bind on equip, so you should be able to easily counter the bug by using it, then the only unfair thing about it would be the fact that is unknown to people, which is solved by time and general chat.

Yes, I know it is no excuse and the bug needs to be fixed, but in the meantime, if possible let's use a temporary solution rather than be taken advantage of...
Basically what this guy said, except I believe OP is referring to the wind crystal relics. Also from my experience dps is slightly lower with the wind relics (less variability tho).
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Sith-Viscera
12.31.2017 , 12:55 PM | #9
***Hypothetically***

WHAT IF? Every body should be on the same level. Walk into pvp ranked or group, and every one has equal stats. Now the match will no doubt last for a while, but when the smoke clears, there is only one standing. That one wins it for their team. So this is how we can make it go a little faster.

Make it where every player gets (these are just example numbers) 12 hit points and 5 blocked moves. That means you can block attaches up to 5 times. Now if your good with your class abilities, then you can chip away at those 12 hit points of your enemy/s and still have your blocks if needed and the other guy has used his blocks up... So he will be dead in no time flat, making the match go fairly fast. Now if you are ganged up on, sure you have 5 blocks but 3 or more players has dwindle those blocks real fast and your dead. Making the match even faster.

You'll still have your class abilities, but they all have a small amount of damage, nothing like they do now. So lets say top damage would depend on the one ability that dose the most damage, 3hp of damage is top. Then that ability would be done cant use it no more that match. Next strongest would do 2hp, and same thing, it can only be used once per match. Weaker abilities us -50hp to -75 to 1hp. 1hp abilities you get two uses then its done. It is the -50 & -75hp abilities you can use threw out the whole match (reason for this is to keep the top damage abilities from being spammed). So this means? Use your block abilities wisely, and you may survive with your team or be the last man standing and bring your team to victory. (block abilities will have to be invented first for every class) (all numbers are just examples)

So No Bolsters, or gear stats, But please, Still wear gear any way, no Nude fighters, there is kids playing too, Ok? lol

I mean if the devs can develop a pvp system like that. It would finally be equally fair for all. Because the gearing system now sucks. If you have the time to put in, then you can have the top gear and kick butt. But if you dont have that kinda time and you using lower grade gear and you want to pvp, you get you butt kicked or in rank you get gripped at for having crappy gear. I think a system like this is the way to go. The devs would work it to make sense way better then me but they should get the idea. I mean you dont have to worry about balance in pvp if every one was equal.

I even think with a well implemented system similar to the Hypothetical idea above, there be no reason why we couldnt have a rank & unrank 1 vs 1 pvp match for top DAWG. Wouldn't that be nice?

P.S. Solo pvp will still work with geared stats. or as they are right now.
Just a Hypo is all. Let the discussion begin.
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Rafiknoll
12.31.2017 , 01:06 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Sith-Viscera View Post
***Hypothetically***....
Not sure if to take it seriously or not, so I will ask you a question before judging: "What about dots? aoes? range vs melee?"