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The Gear Grind


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Cherepk
01.02.2018 , 11:53 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Turn-XGundam View Post
the current gear system is crap imo.
they need to get rid tier 1 and 2 gear since they are mostly obsolete in pve raid/pvp.

then they should allow tier 3 to be bought with command token or components directly
Agree, i mean 4 vendors, set pieces, tokens, components. I just don't understand why do we need so much in such small game. Who the hell needs 230 and 236 gear now. Why new toons need to grind this useless gear now.

This gearing is not friendly on any scale but know bioware this will never change.

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Foambreaker
01.02.2018 , 03:45 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Lattervane View Post
...What in heck are ya'll smoking at the office that made you think this crap up?...
I always wonder what horror show must have gone on it that office. People can tell good ideas from stupendously bad ideas, even co-workers. They had tons of bad customer feedback even in early testing.

A good idea slides right though.

A stupendously bad idea requires a lot of politics to get though, it had to be super tense. I'll bet people quit over it. Some design bully was/is running the show.

Probably "is"; which would explain why they keep applying all these extra Band-Aids.

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Foambreaker
01.02.2018 , 03:47 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Cherepk View Post
Agree, i mean 4 vendors, set pieces, tokens, components. I just don't understand why do we need so much in such small game. Who the hell needs 230 and 236 gear now. Why new toons need to grind this useless gear now.

This gearing is not friendly on any scale but know bioware this will never change.
My wife found a simple way, she makes me buy her gear.

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Helmutmengele
01.02.2018 , 05:12 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafiknoll View Post
It is actually quite simple:

In one room, for each class, there is a set of 4 vendors (1 per tier) which will sell you gear for (230,236,242,248) for the respective gear token + few command tokens. The exception is tier 1 (230) which requires only command tokens without a gear token.

In the 2nd room, for each class, there is a set of vendors (1 per tier) which serve as "converters", they will sell you the gear tokens, for any piece of gear of the same slot and 1 tier LOWER + some hundreds of unassembled components.
230 purple gear (not blue or green) can be converted to 236 tokens (which buys legendary gear).
236 (legendary only) can be converted to 242 tokens (which buys legendary gear).
242 (legendary only) can be converted to 248 tokens (which buys legendary gear) which is currently top rating.
For example, to get a token for a tier 4 glove, the "cost" is a tier 3 glove (242) + some unassembled components. The glove which you sell can have its inner mods stripped out if you want them, even the empty "shell" is enough for the vendor.

Beside all that there are the loot crates, which can grant you the gear directly (tier of the gear depends on their tier of the box which depends on your command rank, which goes up like normal leveling up to 300, in 300 you keep getting cxp, and for each time your cxp bar is full you get a tier 4 crate and the cxp bar resets, but does not lvl you up to 301. Crates also always involve some command tokens, and if you got a non-cosmetic gear piece (=gear with stats, not empty shells) that you don't need you can disintegrate them to get unassembled components.

*Other ways to get unassembled components is basically any non-solo content, and especially PVP weeklies. In fact, these ways are far dominant than disintegrating gear, and the gear, even if unneeded, better be saved to buy the gear tokens, because remember, the cost for a token is unassembled components + a weaker version of the same piece of gear. That means, that if for example, you have 246 gloves (which are not legendary), but open a crate with 242 gloves (which are legendary), you might wanna keep the 242 gloves because they are convertible to 248 (with the unassembled component vendor), while the 246 are not.
*Raid bosses drop gear tokens directly (same token for same boss, so you can target those you want), so it can help you skip the use of unassembled components if you get them.

So it is more complicated than it used to be, but is not confusing or hard to understand when you write it all in one place, and these days all PC games get more and more complicated because simple gets boring (compare the assassin's creed 1st game to the last, or mass effect [but keep Andromeda out of it :P], or any other game series, complicated is good as long as the human mind can still wrap around it.

P.S: The annoying bit is that some tank BiS enhancements can only be achieved as super-rare drops from tier 3 and 4 crates, so rare that in fact I discovered their existence just recently, and hope that in the future there will be other ways to get them. Beside them, all BiS gear can be acquired by not so long work, even if you have 0 luck with your crates.
Yes, very simple. I just read it to my cat Taco, and he had no questions.

.. seriously...back to the original post...

If I had to do the grind all over again I would have BiSed my favorite DPS than put the components into legacy bound gear for my other DPS and skank level 70 toons. With a good starter set of gear, the legacy exp bonuses you can buy, and the double exp consumables you can buy or get from drops, I don't thing the grind so bad. Getting that first toon to Tier-4 BiS or close to it is the key, but an insane grind.