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On the state of Nahut VM progression


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Exocor
11.29.2017 , 02:08 AM | #11
Was it really a given lockout? Or was the specific group just raiding immediately before the Maintenance? Lockouts resetted at 1300 CET, Servers went down at 1400 CET.

Are you just throwing false accusations into the room without any facts? Oh, and as far as I know, Failure were the World Firsts. And, I saw their stream, they indeed did Tyth+Aivela&Esne after the Maintenance.

And, Jerba, with all due respect, I really doubt that you or your group were in a position yesterday to work for the world or server first. In my opinion, the only ones, that maybe has the right to complain about such a matter, are the two or three groups, that probably had PTS-Access and were capable of doing it.

I would also appreciate a fair race without any group having PTS-Access. However, the groups have a very large impact on the boss' design and its balancing, so I am grateful, that they are doing their job on the PTS. The Devs moreover invited raiding groups to take part of the PTS program, so noone should have a reason to complain about a possible "unfairness". We, for example, we decided not to go onto the PTS, because we still had some stuff to do on the live servers back in march/april, when the PTS-program was announced.
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Jstgetitovrwith
11.29.2017 , 02:34 AM | #12
I for one think that on release of a new raid all raiders should have to sign up and be loaded into a dropship, then when the raid is released, each team jumps out to where they think the boss will be in a randomised operation layout, and proceeds to loot raid gear from chests in the operation itself, before pvping each other for the right of world first.

This can be the only fair and balanced progression race.
Deposed some Dread Masters or something

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FerkWork
11.29.2017 , 03:46 AM | #13
>accusations
>progression
>race
>actually caring about this at all while making accusations on the internet and not just doing killing the boss for the fun as there's no progression or race just fun.
>Mysidesareinorbit.png

Login boss is srs bsns lol.

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Jerba
11.29.2017 , 06:13 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by nabcobra View Post
Please tell me how you know this was a sanctioned lockout? And you do know that lockouts reset more than an hour before servers went down for maintance right?
Well, SupaHsuB and WiththeForc already posted in this thread, but if you need further proof, read this chat log (source).

And no, my (semi-progress) group is not able to participate in world first progression. We will likely be stuck on Nahut for many weeks.
In the first few weeks, we can probably get a lockout from other guilds, but once all the content locusts have left, it will be tough. We only raid for about 4-5 hours per week, and we'll probably need at least 2 hours to get a 2/3 lockout, which leaves very little time for progressing on Nahut.

Then hearing that one guild gets a free lockout from a GM makes me angry.
Now, if SWTOR had an "Extend lockout" button like in WoW so that you only need to kill Tyth & A&E once and can carry over the lockout into the following weeks, the situation would be different. But as it stands, Bioware should never have provided that lockout.
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SupaHsuB
11.29.2017 , 06:19 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Jerba View Post
Well, SupaHsuB and WiththeForc already posted in this thread, but if you need further proof, read this chat log (source).

And no, my (semi-progress) group is not able to participate in world first progression. We will likely be stuck on Nahut for many weeks.
In the first few weeks, we can probably get a lockout from other guilds, but once all the content locusts have left, it will be tough. We only raid for about 4-5 hours per week, and we'll probably need at least 2 hours to get a 2/3 lockout, which leaves very little time for progressing on Nahut.

Then hearing that one guild gets a free lockout from a GM makes me angry.
Now, if SWTOR had an "Extend lockout" button like in WoW so that we only need to kill Tyth & A&E once and can carry over the lockout into the following weeks, the situation would be different. But as it stands, Bioware should never have provided that lockout.

Good god, how naive can you be?

Adding this to the Bioware gave us 240 gear first week of 5.0 conspiracy theories.

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Torvai
11.29.2017 , 07:01 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Jerba View Post
Well, SupaHsuB and WiththeForc already posted in this thread, but if you need further proof, read this chat log (source).
Really?

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WiththeForc
11.29.2017 , 10:06 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Jerba View Post
Well, SupaHsuB and WiththeForc already posted in this thread, but if you need further proof, read this chat log (source).

And no, my (semi-progress) group is not able to participate in world first progression. We will likely be stuck on Nahut for many weeks.
In the first few weeks, we can probably get a lockout from other guilds, but once all the content locusts have left, it will be tough. We only raid for about 4-5 hours per week, and we'll probably need at least 2 hours to get a 2/3 lockout, which leaves very little time for progressing on Nahut.

Then hearing that one guild gets a free lockout from a GM makes me angry.
Now, if SWTOR had an "Extend lockout" button like in WoW so that you only need to kill Tyth & A&E once and can carry over the lockout into the following weeks, the situation would be different. But as it stands, Bioware should never have provided that lockout.
Lol, you clearly haven't been around our raids much to realize people meme in our chats, have ya kid?

As others have posted, the servers were in fact live for an hour prior to going offline hence why this gyazo is a thing: https://gyazo.com/726fa4ef77ad3319a945f490ed18b264

But naw, you keep being a meme just like when you BEGGED BW to nerf tyth because your dps couldn't even pull adequate story mode numbers and couldn't come remotely close to killing him on HM
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JLazarillo
11.29.2017 , 10:07 AM | #18
Who cares who did it first?
It's PvE, not PvP. Your status relative to other players shouldn't matter.

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Jerba
11.29.2017 , 10:21 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by WiththeForc View Post
As others have posted, the servers were in fact live for an hour prior to going offline hence why this gyazo is a thing: https://gyazo.com/726fa4ef77ad3319a945f490ed18b264
Thanks, my bad.
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AlexIonutPlay
11.29.2017 , 06:20 PM | #20
30 mins was more then enough to kill the boss even without lockout, as far as i know reset was one hour before patch, so gg for ppl that did it with lockout they can say they got Nahut 1st kill in 7hours+, I guess those ppl that "BEGGED BW" for Tyth nerf did Nahut with lockout since Tyth is hard.