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Replay story arc.


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ChrisRedmond
11.22.2017 , 07:28 AM | #1
Anyone else like the idea of replaying the class story in the same manner as replaying KotFE and KotET? I hate making a new character just to replay a class story. Most of them are pretty awesome.
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SharpArrowTip
11.22.2017 , 07:56 AM | #2
I would! My main is a Jedi Shadow and frankly, besides the major plot points, I forgot most of the class story. I would love to replay it without having to make a new character.
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SteveTheCynic
11.22.2017 , 09:22 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisRedmond View Post
Anyone else like the idea of replaying the class story in the same manner as replaying KotFE and KotET? I hate making a new character just to replay a class story. Most of them are pretty awesome.
Meh. Really. I'm totally indifferent to the idea. But then again, I like creating characters. The only games where I've stayed any length of time and not created dozen of characters were:
* Dofus: the default limit is five across all servers and it doesn't have enough story that I could justify it.
* The Secret World: the default limit is three across all servers and that gives you one per faction, and it's not cheap to create additional slots.
* Runes of Magic: the experience progression curve is actively hostile to having multiple characters.

But the big thing about class story replays is the same thing that eventually (like, before you even leave Istan) makes replaying the Chabek Village mission in Guild Wars: Nightfall seriously boring. A mission in Guild Wars 1 is approximately the equivalent of a class story chapter final boss sub-mission in SWTOR, and Chabek Village is the very first one you encounter, almost immediately after you begin the Nightfall campaign with a new character, so you are normally only level 3-4. When you come back to replay it at level 20 (max level in GW1), about the only way to get hurt is if you trip over an NPC's corpse.

Level Sync does not suffice to make that less impactful. GW2 level scaling does not prevent an Exotic-wearing, Ascended-wielding level 80 character from sleepwalking through low-level content.(1) (GW2 has had the equivalent of the upcoming Master's Datacron since before the Heart of Thorns expansion, and that allows you to do the "base game" personal story at level 80. The final mission, Victory or Death, was meant for level 80 anyway, but the very first part is scaled to 10, and level 80s crush it.)

Hmm. Conclusion: I'm actually somewhat opposed to this, mitigated by a certain dose of "well, if you don't care about that, OK, I guess."

(1) World Bosses are another matter. Even the strongest of SWTOR world bosses isn't strong enough to count as a hopelessly pathetic wuss compared to Tequatl the Sunless or The Shatterer. Heck, even the Behemoth in the swamp in Queensdale (human Noob Island zone) makes most SWTOR world bosses look like pushovers.
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FlameYOL
11.22.2017 , 09:40 AM | #4
I'd also enjoy for them to have veteran and master difficulties. As of now even without upgrading your gear at every planet you can still sleep walk through most fights.
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Cuiwe
11.24.2017 , 01:00 PM | #5
Yes, definitely! We need 1-50 Veteran / Master version. Or some kind of replay.

But we will get it. Some year or two from now. Once they see the sterling reception of WoW classic server(like it was with EQ Progression / Time Locked servers etc)...they'll copy that right over. Just like they are doing with Master's Datacron. Just like they did with a LOT of things.
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Cuiwe
11.24.2017 , 01:01 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveTheCynic View Post
Meh. Really. I'm totally indifferent to the idea. But then again, I like creating characters. The only games where I've stayed any length of time and not created dozen of characters were:
* Dofus: the default limit is five across all servers and it doesn't have enough story that I could justify it.
* The Secret World: the default limit is three across all servers and that gives you one per faction, and it's not cheap to create additional slots.
* Runes of Magic: the experience progression curve is actively hostile to having multiple characters.

But the big thing about class story replays is the same thing that eventually (like, before you even leave Istan) makes replaying the Chabek Village mission in Guild Wars: Nightfall seriously boring. A mission in Guild Wars 1 is approximately the equivalent of a class story chapter final boss sub-mission in SWTOR, and Chabek Village is the very first one you encounter, almost immediately after you begin the Nightfall campaign with a new character, so you are normally only level 3-4. When you come back to replay it at level 20 (max level in GW1), about the only way to get hurt is if you trip over an NPC's corpse.

Level Sync does not suffice to make that less impactful. GW2 level scaling does not prevent an Exotic-wearing, Ascended-wielding level 80 character from sleepwalking through low-level content.(1) (GW2 has had the equivalent of the upcoming Master's Datacron since before the Heart of Thorns expansion, and that allows you to do the "base game" personal story at level 80. The final mission, Victory or Death, was meant for level 80 anyway, but the very first part is scaled to 10, and level 80s crush it.)

Hmm. Conclusion: I'm actually somewhat opposed to this, mitigated by a certain dose of "well, if you don't care about that, OK, I guess."

(1) World Bosses are another matter. Even the strongest of SWTOR world bosses isn't strong enough to count as a hopelessly pathetic wuss compared to Tequatl the Sunless or The Shatterer. Heck, even the Behemoth in the swamp in Queensdale (human Noob Island zone) makes most SWTOR world bosses look like pushovers.
Ever heard about a thing called "HARD MODE"? Where every enemy became lvl 28(iirc).

Oh, Chabek is not so easy anymore
"I am not in this for politics, nor the wanton destruction, hell not even for credits. I have chosen this way of life because of the hunt and because it was pushed onto me on some ugly slimeball called a "pearl" and Honour bound me to this path ever onwards" Caelestinus

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SteveTheCynic
11.25.2017 , 05:40 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Cuiwe View Post
Ever heard about a thing called "HARD MODE"? Where every enemy became lvl 28(iirc).

Oh, Chabek is not so easy anymore
I came to GW1 a bit late, and I never actually finished Nightfall to activate Hard Mode there (but I did finish GW:EN and Factions). But that would be replay in harder difficulties. Replay in baseline difficulty would go exactly as I described it.
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> @"Biff.5312" said:
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starzandstripes
12.01.2017 , 10:57 AM | #8
Being the alt whore I am, I don't mind playing the main stories again with a new toon. In fact, I wind up deleting some characters because I like the new ones I made more. I usually decide by level 50 if I am going to keep a character or not. For me the choices I make play a big part. With male characters my romance choices with who and why impact me greatly, with female characters there are so few romance options I like, I generally go either Theron or Lana. For some reason I am that weird person that likes making new characters and getting invested in them. As for taking the older characters through the story again, I m not sure i would do it with some classes. I had real issues with how the trooper plays combat wise and the story for the Jedi Consular after chapter one was very blah for me.
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TalonVII
12.01.2017 , 04:58 PM | #9
Hell yes I'd love to replay at veteran or master for the first 3 chapters.
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Cawyden
12.02.2017 , 02:59 AM | #10
While I would like that I think it would even be better if we could change our decisions and not have it locked the first time. I guess they want us to have many different characters but this would allow us to reshape our character without having to give up all time and effort invested in this character.