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After playing for nearly 5 years, I am quitting after I post this.

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After playing for nearly 5 years, I am quitting after I post this.

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Tsillah
09.28.2017 , 06:21 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyber-Blade View Post
But the thing that ticks me off the most, is when developers lie. We were told there would never be a time when a year would not pass with an operation. it took nearly 2 and a half years for ONE operation boss.
I totally get what you're saying and I cannot blame you for quitting. At the same time I do want to put a bit of nuance in the example you give here. I do agree that BW have been less than forward about things on various occasions. Stealth nerfs have happened various times without mention in the patch notes because they were "forgotten". They seem to have some major memory issues.

However, the operations situation as you describe it, I wouldn't characterize as lying. I do think that was their original plan but I think in light of a downsized team and operations not being as popular as they should be, they changed their plans. They also said this before 4.0 came out when they explained the change of direction. I do not see it as lying if people change their plans and say so openly, which they did. If they hadn't said anything at all before 4.0, then yes, you would have a point. But that's not the case.

Now I think that how they changed their plans was not the best direction for the game. I understood the game needed overhauling but I also remember they pulled in devs from another game to help out with 4.0 and then to see the limited new content that came out from that, well that was very disappointing.

And yes, PvP hasn't had a lot of love over the years. They never really properly developed it. It's a shame but it's a reality.
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SolarSaenz
09.28.2017 , 07:39 AM | #12
I hear you, original poster (OP).

The SWTOR staff for a few years now seems only capable of doing one thing at a time, and usually that one thing is of lukewarm quality.

I think because this game is just another source of revenue, BW/EA doesn't care alot about this game and can easily move onto other games to mess up.

Sometimes, I get the feeling that one of two things is happening behind the scenes.

BW/EA no longer wishes to have this game alive, so they are intentionally trying to drive away enough customers until they can justify shutting down the game because not enough profits are made (or no profits are made).

BW/EA see this game as a place to experiment and us as a test audience. They're not sure how certain features will work or be received. So, they implement them in SWTOR, see how it works, both how well it's received by the players and how hard it is to implement and maintain from a technical stand point and then decide if they will port it over to future games or not.
Also, this might be a "proving ground" for employees or a place for BW/EA employees to "build their resume". If they do well, they get moved to important projects. If not, they are let go or allowed to just continue in SWTOR for some length of time.

I still like the game for what it used to be. It's the 1.x- 3.x content that keeps me here. That stuff is still good, in my opinion.

I don't expect things to drastically change. As much as I'd like to see a continuation of class stories, I don't want Charles writing class stories if he was the creative talent behind the KOTFE/KOTET/ Iokath and Umbarra stories. I won't go so far as to say Charles needs to go, but I will say he needs help in writing creative, good stories. He does have a spark. Maybe he just needs a partner in crime so to speak so that between the two of them, they can churn out something that will be well received.

PVP can be fun. I'm not saying it doesn't have it's problem (Unkillable Mercs!) You just need people who guard or capture the nodes, be team players, aren't away from keyboard (AFK), and don't engage in 1v1 battles when they should be trying to carry the huttball over the goal!

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Threjyan
09.28.2017 , 07:40 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Jdast View Post
Can I have your stuff or not?

damn you.you were to fast!
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Threjyan
09.28.2017 , 07:43 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by berelinde View Post
Irony?

Yeah, I know. That wasn't the point of the post. I just thought it was funny.
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it was really funny to read one complain about space barbie and then talk about dyes..he completly destroyed his point of view.

so i wonder, is space barbie a part of this game or not? when i wipe or get rekt in pve or pvp, at least i hope i do it with style
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DanNV
09.28.2017 , 07:59 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by merovejec View Post
Yeah, sorry to see people go.

I am similar opinion as the OP, but I just love the game too much to leave. Can only hope more ppl come than leave.
More people haven't come than left in ages and the trend has been downhill since a few weeks after launch. The problems with the game aren't new. It has been incompetently managed from the get-go. IT's just worse as they promote more internally instead of looking outside for someone who might actually try to fix the mistakes instead of compounding them.

Quote: Originally Posted by SolarSaenz View Post
I don't expect things to drastically change. As much as I'd like to see a continuation of class stories, I don't want Charles writing class stories if he was the creative talent behind the KOTFE/KOTET/ Iokath and Umbarra stories. I won't go so far as to say Charles needs to go, but I will say he needs help in writing creative, good stories. He does have a spark. Maybe he just needs a partner in crime so to speak so that between the two of them, they can churn out something that will be well received.
I'll say it, Charles needs to go, but not by himself. The entire decision making team, top to bottom, needs to go. Unfortunately, without a large investment by EA even that won't save the game at this point. There are a lot of bad design decisions that need to be reversed, a lot of really bad story that now needs to be retconed out and a huge number of players who have to see real change before they'll even think about coming back.

I don't blame the OP in the slightest or any of the other players who have announced they are leaving, or who quietly have gone. The game is no longer fun, the devs are clueless and there are other options out there that, while not perfect, are a LOT better. (That is not a hard bar to meet at this point.)
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TUXs
09.28.2017 , 08:14 AM | #16
I can't disagree with anything...I'm just sorry it has come to this for you. You're not alone and you'll be missed...
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JattaGin
09.28.2017 , 08:59 AM | #17
I'm sorry that you leave, OP. But then again, it's obviously what BW wants you to do.

If BW would be interested in keeping anyone of the MANY players that have been leaving just alone in this year, they would do something about it.

Instead, they focus for months on nerfing each and everyone. Which is something which is proven to NOT keep anyone from unsubbing. I don't understand their priorities. Unless that deleted thread about why they are doing it, is true. Then it all makes sense.
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kodrac
09.28.2017 , 09:00 AM | #18
In before they delete this thread too.
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SolarSaenz
09.28.2017 , 09:03 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by kodrac View Post
In before they delete this thread too.
Nah, they'll just move it to the off topic subsection like all the other "I quit" posts.

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Zerileth
09.28.2017 , 09:11 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by DeVanagloris View Post
... take your wallet and go. It's the only language they understand.
I don't think they do.
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