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Merc/Mando/Ops/Scoundrel Healers Nerfed

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Merc/Mando/Ops/Scoundrel Healers Nerfed

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Elusive_Thing
09.28.2017 , 03:50 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Foambreaker View Post
Name the heals on the move.
Resurgence, Innervate (utility needed, but quite a popular one), Roaming Mend, Unnatural Preservation (self-only) and Static Barrier.

For the sake of being thorough: Revivification at three stacks, Dark Heal (procced by either Revivification, Crushing Darkness or Dark Infusion).

Don't think it's a popular utility, but I take it for regs, so again, just to be thorough, Galvanizing Cleanse gives an instant cast every 30 seconds. Can be used for, say, Dark Infusion that leads to Dark Heal for the heal and, possibly, speed boost.

Edit: Ah, forgot the cleanse! Anyway, as I said, you can chain plenty of heals there and I also said none of the "normally" mobile heals are without a CD.

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Ansultares
09.28.2017 , 04:01 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Foambreaker View Post
Sorc healer mobility is a myth
It's not.
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Foambreaker
09.28.2017 , 04:13 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Elusive_Thing View Post
Resurgence, Innervate (utility needed, but quite a popular one), Roaming Mend, Unnatural Preservation (self-only) and Static Barrier.

For the sake of being thorough: Revivification at three stacks, Dark Heal (procced by either Revivification, Crushing Darkness or Dark Infusion).

Don't think it's a popular utility, but I take it for regs, so again, just to be thorough, Galvanizing Cleanse gives an instant cast every 30 seconds. Can be used for, say, Dark Infusion that leads to Dark Heal for the heal and, possibly, speed boost.

Edit: Ah, forgot the cleanse! Anyway, as I said, you can chain plenty of heals there and I also said none of the "normally" mobile heals are without a CD.
You're in the PvP forums. If your first channel is interrupted nothing procs, roaming mend only roams if 2 people are taking damage, if you are being globaled in arena you get one tick.

Your self heal is more of a DC because it has such a long cooldown. But at that point you are pretty much down to DCs or standing still and casting.

If that first channel is interrupted its over and most know that.


This would be a good rotation for PvE if a boss was on you

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Elusive_Thing
09.28.2017 , 04:27 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Foambreaker View Post
You're in the PvP forums. If your first channel is interrupted nothing procs, roaming mend only roams if 2 people are taking damage, if you are being globaled in arena you get one tick.
I wasn't trying to give a rotation, I was listing the heals as requested. Also, some people use Resurgence before Roaming Mend. As for your Innervate getting interrupted, yes, it does happen. You can still bait out interrupts and (though rarely) use Polarity Shift. Trying to keep track of the enemy interrupts tends not to be a bad idea either, they quite rarely have a perfectly synced interrupt rotation, at least in regs and solos.

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Your self heal is more of a DC because it has such a long cooldown. But at that point you are pretty much down to DCs or standing still and casting.
A heal nevertheless. Also, I disagree about using it as a last resort only. For example if you don't get focused at the time, but have taken damage, you can heal yourself while focusing on whoever on your team is taking damage.

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If that first channel is interrupted its over and most know that.
I wasn't listing a rotation. After that you still have Resurgence, Roaming and bubble. None of those available? Stun/knockback, cleanse something (if there is something to be cleansed) or whatever.

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This would be a good rotation for PvE if a boss was on you
Again, not a rotation. You asked me to name the Sorcerer heals, which I did. First the ones that can be done on the move, then the more situational ones such as procs. The Dark Infusion with Galvanizing Cleanse is, from what I've seen at least, a rare one though, which I also admitted. Not really sure how you managed to read my post so wrong.

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Wimbleton
09.28.2017 , 05:43 PM | #35
It's clear he hasn't got a clue and just wants to troll.

I don't start with innervate. Ever. If I think they might die really quickly, I'll bubble, otherwise I want to resurg then roaming so that they have both buffs, then bubble, then resurg then innervate. If at any time I can't keep up or I think I'm vulnerable to intterupt, I'll work in a polarity shift. I will typically work up to a 3stack so that I can insta reviv into a dark heal insta. Everything is now available again. (typically recklessness is held to pair with an innervate when I really need crits).

If my guy is still having issues, I'll probably choose to peel for him (force slow, knockback root, insta WW, stun or grenade) or pull him to LoS.

If it just so happens that none of that is available or I think I can get away with it, I'll DI into DH after resurg.

The last thing I'll do is Unlim Power (gives endurance and makes my stuff and their stuff stronger).

If none of that then he dies and if he's a bro I'll combat rez him, otherwise, peese.

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doohickeyexpress
09.29.2017 , 08:42 AM | #36
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Foambreaker
09.29.2017 , 11:54 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Elusive_Thing View Post
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I'm not going to do the line by line discussion with you, mostly because it doesn't really matter what we think and I am ok with us not agreeing.

One thing, regarding rotation, all I really meant to imply is that if you are running and healing, no matter when you channel, which eventually you must channel if you are running, if that channel is interrupted, all downstream procs fall apart meaning you have to use a DCD or stop running, ending mobility.

By contrast, the OPs proc triggers are all instant cast and cannot be interrupted; the OP can keep running indefinitely.

This is why I think the OP has more mobility than the sorc.

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yellow_
09.29.2017 , 12:20 PM | #38
there's no way anyone could actually have played both medicine and corruption competently in pvp and seriously think corruption is less mobile...right?

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Kirpputori
09.29.2017 , 02:37 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by yellow_ View Post
there's no way anyone could actually have played both medicine and corruption competently in pvp and seriously think corruption is less mobile...right?
nah fam, oper has roll = most mobile and unkillable.

Oh, and they don't need to even use other heal abilities except probe

:^)
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Lundorff
09.29.2017 , 03:50 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Kirpputori View Post
nah fam, oper has roll = most mobile and unkillable.

Oh, and they don't need to even use other heal abilities except probe

:^)
Op healz is much kool, much heal, me like