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Gear Matters - It rly does, bro, srsly.

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Gear Matters - It rly does, bro, srsly.

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Wimbleton
09.21.2017 , 05:14 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Lundorff View Post
Are these with and without gear?
Both without. Didn't bring my gear into the arena and it doesn't let you open legacy bank in a warzone.
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Wimbleton
09.21.2017 , 05:15 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by DenariusJay View Post
Eh, I think what your really trying to say Ble is that gear doesn't make you a better player.

We all know gear matters, all gear does is amplify whatever you are able to do at your skill level, but it won't make a better player. Like for instance, suppose someone is an awesome marauder player, exceptionally good, but he only has 116k HP when he loads into a match. He can probably run circles around a player that has 128k hp but has horrible timing, spams all there dcds, and tries to face tank everything. In the end, gear didn't matter for the guy with 128k because he was simply outplayed.

However, imagine if the marauder had the same gear. Then it wouldn't even be close, he would tear that guy up. So in the end gear matters, but skill, knowing your rotations and handling pressure is what makes or breaks the deal in most arena matches. Also, play an OP class helps too. xD
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merovejec
09.21.2017 , 05:33 AM | #13
Not sure if this is a troll or you are for real.

You need to provide WAY more matches like that in order to prove this. I dont see what classes you were up against, but from the picture you can see a lot.

1. It was 9 am so its not the best players quing at that time anywhere

2. The Merc in the enemy team did 6583 healing, that means he didnt use Adrenaline rush, medpac or Reflec so what kind of Merc player is that?? (Not to mention his offheals)

3. The enemy team didnt have a healer and you had a dps/tank guarding.

4. Its a reg wz, not ranked.

Giving this info (I could give way more insights if I knew more) I can tell you it was pure luck what happened there. Gear does matter, at least it matters if you go in naked or not, there is less difference between 240 and 248 but being naked is definitely not the way.

Lastly, I recently leveled a new toon, got him to 70 and wanted to get to 25 valor for ranked so did PVP, I was Immortal in 2 matches in starter 208 (or whatever gear you get on a 65 token toon), so what does that tell us? I also qued for pvp while i was at work, so 7 am and 11 am my time).
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kissingaiur
09.21.2017 , 06:41 AM | #14
When I was doing my last charity streaming event my group did a no-gear arena challenge. We won vs. fully geared players lol. I think I pulled 6k+ Hps with only a main hand. The truth of the matter is majority of swtor pvpers can be out played by simlply understanding how to kite/LoS and class how your class works.

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Wimbleton
09.21.2017 , 06:42 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by merovejec View Post
Not sure if this is a troll or you are for real.
if I tell you it's a troll post then that either a) disqualifies my post from troll status or b) it wasn't a troll post but I'm now saying it is and you don't really know which is true. This begins troll inception and we go deeper into the troalllity of the internet possibly losing ourselves to this reality we've created causing irreparable damage to both our troll meter and internet reputations as antitroll advocates.

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Well surely after this reply it's obvious I am/was trolling...



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Or was/am I?
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09.21.2017 , 06:43 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Wimbleton View Post
if I tell you it's a troll post then that either a) disqualifies my post from troll status or b) it wasn't a troll post but I'm now saying it is and you don't really know which is true. This begins troll inception and we go deeper into the troalllity of the internet possibly losing ourselves to this reality we've created causing irreparable damage to both our troll meter and internet reputations as antitroll advocates.

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Well surely after this reply it's obvious I am/was trolling...



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Or was/am I?

Please help him, and quickly!
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Wimbleton
09.21.2017 , 06:46 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by kissingaiur View Post
When I was doing my last charity streaming event my group did a no-gear arena challenge. We won vs. fully geared players lol. I think I pulled 6k+ Hps with only a main hand. The truth of the matter is majority of swtor pvpers can be out played by simlply understanding how to kite/LoS and class how your class works.
Your truth holds no sway here, mistress.
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Lundorff
09.21.2017 , 06:50 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by kissingaiur View Post
When I was doing my last charity streaming event my group did a no-gear arena challenge. We won vs. fully geared players lol. I think I pulled 6k+ Hps with only a main hand. The truth of the matter is majority of swtor pvpers can be out played by simlply understanding how to kite/LoS and class how your class works.
Did you do that against a premade with similar classes? If so I am very impressed, but if we are talking premade vs. pug.... not so much

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Wimbleton
09.21.2017 , 06:52 AM | #19
Go find the VOD of that day. You'll see one such match was vs. <STOP RESISTING>. I still remember it. Report back your findings.
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VaeVictis
09.21.2017 , 09:03 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by kissingaiur View Post
The truth of the matter is majority of swtor pvpers can be out played by simlply understanding how to kite/LoS and class how your class works.
This is truth right here. I was just talking to my guild last night how many baddie fotm Merc/Mandos there are that open with net. How dumb can you be...guess they got PvE on the brain.