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Most cruel or messed up choices you could make?

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Most cruel or messed up choices you could make?

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MrNihulus
07.09.2017 , 04:49 PM | #1
While I like playing as a Dark Side Sith, there are some actions that are simply monstrous like letting the Hutt Cartel bomb a civilian transport on Nar Shaddaa or killing a woman who turned out to be innocent all along during a quest in Balmorra.

Another awful thing you could do is to act horribly to Blizz or T7-01. Being mean to those companions is like kicking a puppy. Here is a video of a Dark Side Jedi Knight being a total douche to T7 "Warning" it will make your blood boil.

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Aeneas_Falco
07.09.2017 , 08:22 PM | #2
Killing Jaesa's parents in order to manipulate her towards the dark side, then the Sith Warrior later becoming romantically involved with her.

I think that's the most sick or twisted thing a player character can potentially do in the game. Even my dark-sided Sith Warrior had her parents sent to Dromund Kaas instead.

Somewhat O/T but it would be interesting if that choice later became important, assuming Jaesa ever returns as a companion. They should have dark-sided versions of Jaesa eventually attempt to kill the Sith Warrior, if her parents were murdered. Sith apprentices usually move against their master at some point anyway, but if the SW killed her family she's got extra incentive.

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OldVengeance
07.09.2017 , 09:52 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeneas_Falco View Post
Killing Jaesa's parents in order to manipulate her towards the dark side, then the Sith Warrior later becoming romantically involved with her.

I think that's the most sick or twisted thing a player character can potentially do in the game. Even my dark-sided Sith Warrior had her parents sent to Dromund Kaas instead.

Somewhat O/T but it would be interesting if that choice later became important, assuming Jaesa ever returns as a companion. They should have dark-sided versions of Jaesa eventually attempt to kill the Sith Warrior, if her parents were murdered. Sith apprentices usually move against their master at some point anyway, but if the SW killed her family she's got extra incentive.
My Jaesa romancing DS Warrior did the same thing with her parents for basically the same reason, but Jaesa trying to kill the Wrath to avenge her parents would be out of character. DS Jaesa is twisted enough that she cares about the Sith Warrior much more than her parents. And she was already devoted enough to him or her that she refuses to betray them, even when given the chance.

With regards to the OP, besides the thing with Jaesa's parents, offhand I can remember :

- The Jedi Knight can Force Push a Voss Mystic into the maw of Sel-Makor and kill Tana Rae so that Sel-Makor survives.

- Bounty Hunters can also give a woman a bag with the severed head of her husband in it on Hutta.

- The Jedi Knight getting the Jawas on Tatooine killed is also pretty awful, especially because of how cute they are.

- On Alderaan, Sith Warriors can force General Organa to give up information on the Wilsaams by Force Choking her lover, and then kill them both anyway after she gives you the information.

- Imperial Agents can help Darth Jadus complete his plan with the eradicators, which results in hundreds of thousands of deaths, I think.

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MadDutchman
07.09.2017 , 10:06 PM | #4
Vette + shock collar

Worse than killing Jaesa's parents is sending them to Dromund Kaas to be tortured.

Torturing Ashara into joining you.

Sith are some messed up freaks.
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IoNonSoEVero
07.10.2017 , 12:24 AM | #5
In the SW storyline, there's a side quest on Dromund Kaas where you can poison the slaves' water with chemicals to inflict extreme pain on them. There's another side quest on Taris where you can infest hospital kolto tanks with the rakghoul plague. Those two still stand out in my mind as being really, really messed up.

My SW turned both of those down, as well as a few others that were totally brutal. And she took off Vette's shock collar right away because that was a messed up choice too.

Also when Vette asks for you to buy her sister's freedom at the brothel, you can tell her that her sister will have to entertain you (or the crew, depending on SW's gender) first. And then when she does, you can still refuse to buy her freedom and basically call her a tramp. Yeah, my SW didn't do that either...she just forked over the money when Vette asked.

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Aresnar
07.10.2017 , 02:04 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by IoNonSoEVero View Post
In the SW storyline, there's a side quest on Dromund Kaas where you can poison the slaves' water with chemicals to inflict extreme pain on them. There's another side quest on Taris where you can infest hospital kolto tanks with the rakghoul plague. Those two still stand out in my mind as being really, really messed up.
Think both of those were World Quests and not class specific.

Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
My Jaesa romancing DS Warrior did the same thing with her parents for basically the same reason, but Jaesa trying to kill the Wrath to avenge her parents would be out of character. DS Jaesa is twisted enough that she cares about the Sith Warrior much more than her parents. And she was already devoted enough to him or her that she refuses to betray them, even when given the chance.
I always got the feeling that Jaesa's power prevented her from ever getting close to her parents. Remember she can read the 'truth' about people even when that truth is very unpleasant and in her parents case while I think they did love her, they also basically viewed her as commodity for them to move into a nice cushy noble life by having her marry a noble man.

Imagine how that would affect a young girl growing up? Knowing that your parents really do see you as something to trade to better their lives?

Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
- On Alderaan, Sith Warriors can force General Organa to give up information on the Wilsaams by Force Choking her lover, and then kill them both anyway after she gives you the information.
I am not sure whether you took a different option then I did but the best (and most twisted) option in my eyes was choking Organa's lover then after she told you the information, Killing General Organa and her aides but letting her lover live in misery

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OldVengeance
07.10.2017 , 02:28 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Aresnar View Post
I am not sure whether you took a different option then I did but the best (and most twisted) option in my eyes was choking Organa's lover then after she told you the information, Killing General Organa and her aides but letting her lover live in misery
Yeah, you could do that too. I guess it just depends on the perspective on the issue. You can potentially kill either of them just to leave the other miserable. You could arguably make a case that any of the DS options are the most sadistic or cruel. In terms of what has the most strictly practical benefits for the Empire however, I think would probably be the "kill them all" option.

My own character actually let them live, though. I tried to play him as (mostly) a man of his word, and he saw them as unimportant and beneath him, so letting them live didn't matter.

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Aresnar
07.10.2017 , 05:23 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
My own character actually let them live, though. I tried to play him as (mostly) a man of his word, and he saw them as unimportant and beneath him, so letting them live didn't matter.
My character is also the same regarding being a man of his word with the addition that he puts the well being of the Empire above all.

So in this case, he killed the General as she was a threat to Sith Interests on Alderran and as she did not ask that she herself be spared (she only asked that her lover was released.)

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MrNihulus
07.10.2017 , 11:18 AM | #9
One other example I should mention would be in Chapter I of KOTET after you kill Senya. You can lie to Arcann, saying that he is the one responsible for his mother's death.

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Ralei
07.10.2017 , 03:15 PM | #10
I think the Warrior takes the cake at having the potential to be the cruelest to their own side. Starting with the Grathan thing on DK, killing Jaesa's loved ones, keeping Vette in a collar and being gross about her sister if you let her out, sexually harassing Quinn and then making him make babies with you, killing all of the loyal Imperial spies on Baras' orders, killing loyal Imperial soldiers on Belsavis to get to Ekkage ... I don't remember any other story with the potential to be so mean. And then with Iokath, you can choose Empire and let Theron watch his father disown him and die and then you can immediately dump him for Quinn lol.
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