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Hardest Operation Boss?


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Maxitrac
07.07.2017 , 03:08 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by MrNihulus View Post
What is your pick for the hardest operation boss?
Well in my opinion master blaster and revan tie for the hardest hm boss but if I was to base on the dps check styrak, heals raptus by far, and tank check in revan/mb.

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Exocor
07.07.2017 , 04:59 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Maxitrac View Post
Well in my opinion master blaster and revan tie for the hardest hm boss but if I was to base on the dps check styrak, heals raptus by far, and tank check in revan/mb.
Heal check Raptus? Really? Did you ever healed Blaster phase 2 and 3? Or Ruugar with eating mouse droids?
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07.10.2017 , 09:29 AM | #13
The problem at all is the wrong scaling of the bosses, that means that the operation bosses never will be hard as they come out.
And that evryone exploiting Brontes with jumping.
The hardest boss at the moment is brontes if you dont exploiting with jumping.
But the hardest boss ever in his true form at 2.8 was Dread Council.
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Torvai
07.10.2017 , 09:37 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Excutor View Post
The problem at all is the wrong scaling of the bosses, that means that the operation bosses never will be hard as they come out.
And that evryone exploiting Brontes with jumping.
The hardest boss at the moment is brontes if you dont exploiting with jumping.
But the hardest boss ever in his true form at 2.6 was Dread Council.
"Exploiting Brontes with jumping"?
So, jumping out of an aoe suddenly is exploiting? It's nothing else than this.

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RikuvonDrake
07.10.2017 , 10:09 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Torvai View Post
"Exploiting Brontes with jumping"?
So, jumping out of an aoe suddenly is exploiting? It's nothing else than this.
No, the exploit is that if tanks jumps at the right time while dealing with slam from the hands, they take no damage what so ever, likely as a result of not technically standing in the damaging marker on the group (as they are in the air). This means that your tanks take no damage what so ever during six finger phase as well as in the burn phase.

Quite a few groups with bad healers do this to get the wings.

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Threjyan
07.10.2017 , 10:10 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Torvai View Post
"Exploiting Brontes with jumping"?
So, jumping out of an aoe suddenly is exploiting? It's nothing else than this.
humm..jumping in "Z" axis, its not jumping out of the aoe. prolly it is broken or bad coded - kinda like snipers wouldnt be pulled while on entrench in second boss TOS HM. its not working like it should imo. if u are doing it im ok with that, people use whatever they want to kill boss, diferent strats whatever, but imo, its not working like it should.
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Torvai
07.10.2017 , 10:25 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by RikuvonDrake View Post
No, the exploit is that if tanks jumps at the right time while dealing with slam from the hands, they take no damage what so ever, likely as a result of not technically standing in the damaging marker on the group (as they are in the air). This means that your tanks take no damage what so ever during six finger phase as well as in the burn phase.

Quite a few groups with bad healers do this to get the wings.
I know. And I'm doing it as well. Why shouldn't I?
It's basically the same as jumping out of an aoe to force a positional update. Or knocking an add again with overload because overload isn't a cone but a cylinder with basically no height.
As opposed to Hands Slam, which is a cone, where the point is the middle of the hitbox itself, so through jumping, you get out of the area. Has nothing to do with exploiting anything. Is it poorly programmed? Probably, but exploiting? No.

If that is exploiting, so is sitting at above/below a certain distance to not get hit by some aoe or mechanic(C-Zero anyone?), los'ing anything and jumping to make sure you're out of the AoE.

And in case anybody wonders: Yes, I got my coneuqerer of the dread fortress as well.

What I consider an exploit on the other hand is the "don't use green circles to dispell doom so you don't get red circles" tactic on Dread Guards.

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RikuvonDrake
07.10.2017 , 10:27 AM | #18
If you feel you need to use these exploits to kill the encounter due to a lack of healing or correct usage of cooldowns, feel free, I am just clarifying that it is indeed an exploit.

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Torvai
07.10.2017 , 10:31 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by RikuvonDrake View Post
If you feel you need to use these exploits to kill the encounter due to a lack of healing or correct usage of cooldowns, feel free, I am just clarifying that it is indeed an exploit.
Why? Exploiting is defined as using a bug. What about this makes it a bug?

Another example: When tanking the Ops Chief in S&V, I completely LoS him. I don't receive any damage from him whatsoever, because LoSing interrupts his terminate cast, which he then starts new. Is this exploiting as well?
Or said "avoid doom" mechanic on Dread Guards?

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Evolixe
07.10.2017 , 10:34 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Torvai View Post
Is this exploiting as well?
Or said "avoid doom" mechanic on Dread Guards?
Yes.

And avoid doom? You use your cooldowns to get rid of it instead. Game-given abilities.
Unlike jumping to avoid an obviously intended unavoidable damage spike.

Anyway grats on your 2k17 brontes kill /w jumps. Lmfao.
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