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Night life event not granting jackpots on kingpin machines?

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Night life event not granting jackpots on kingpin machines?

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aerockyul
06.14.2017 , 01:20 PM | #11
So, what's the point of the triangle, if like some of you are saying as if you designed the system yourselves, it actually doesn't do anything?
Perhaps I missed early in the event's life when someone or something told us "hey, there's a triangle in the center of the "win" zone that looks like a bulls-eye, you know, like in most of these types of games, but it doesn't actually do anything. It's there because....we don't know, we just like putting geometric shapes in the center of things" If that's the case, fine. GREAT design element

Nowhere am I denying people aren't hitting jackpots or that I'm mad because I didn't get the comp (that I could care less about) or mounts (that I would never use even if I won them). I know what the jackpots look and sound like when they happen. I was observing how strange it is that you can hit that triangle dead-on and it doesn't actually mean there is a jackpot position.

Which is FINE, if that was the intended design. If you have a 100% chance of winning something inside the "win" zone, and it is 100% RNG what that something is 100% regardless of where the arrow falls inside the win zone, then my only question is, what was the point of the triangle in the dead-center of the "win" zone?

It would be like "Here's a target with a bullseye. There is a bright center point that you could call the "goal", or "point", of shooting at the target. However, whether you hit the bullseye or the outermost part of the entire target, your reward will be awarded by separate rolls of the dice completely unrelated to what you just did with the target."

Or you are on an actual slot machine, and you get five in a row of the "highest-valued" symbol, but your winnings could be as if you got three in a row of the lowest-valued symbols, four of the mid-value, or what you actually see with your own eyes--you know, the five things in a row that is an actual visual queue in front of your face that you just hit the "target" or "goal".

You're saying you'd be happy at any casino, seeing that happen, and just accepting the lowest payout? Or you'd be happy practicing and honing your aiming skills with the target and bullseye only to see someone miss the bullseye by a meter and get a higher reward than you, who just hit the dead-center?

Great logic, great design.
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HeatRacer
06.14.2017 , 04:50 PM | #12
There is no "aiming" for the bullseye. It is completely RNG, and any notions that you can time it for a better result is just placebo.
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americanaussie
06.14.2017 , 05:03 PM | #13
I was like...wait...you mean I'm supposed to aim for something? I just click the machines. I got a jackpot on the smuggler one which awarded me a cert. And I got one on the kingpin. I only had 400k and did it all in about 40 mins
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WelbyWars
06.14.2017 , 05:06 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by aerockyul View Post

You're saying you'd be happy at any casino, seeing that happen, and just accepting the lowest payout? Or you'd be happy practicing and honing your aiming skills with the target and bullseye only to see someone miss the bullseye by a meter and get a higher reward than you, who just hit the dead-center?

Great logic, great design.
Way to overshoot the mark. Calm down and listen.

All we're saying is you get in the win zone you get a prize,...be it another kingpin token or a Cert,.. or whatever. The Triangle seems to mean little. No one said they're happy. It is what it is,.and we told you.

And don't pretend there is skill by implying 'you hit the bullseye'. You can stare at the spinny thing for as long as you like and think you hit GO at the right time but as you've hopefully noticed the screen blips and resets it's spin to whatever RNG it rolled as a starting state. So there is no timing to use skill on.

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CaptainKurota
06.14.2017 , 05:18 PM | #15
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I noticed this too and it's true for the smuggler's machines as well. I think the display doesn't really match up with an actual jackpot win. I think anything within the green zone counts as "not a loss," and then the wins from there are simply random. I suspect they never bothered coding an actual jackpot visual.
They do have a jackpot visual because they use it with the Contraband Slot Machine. They probably forgot to tie it in with the event or just wanted to crank it out as soon as possible. Probably the latter.
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docbenwayddo
06.14.2017 , 06:24 PM | #16
You click-
RNG Decides Win/Loss
RNG Decides Prize
THEN graphic starts spinning the wheel If it's a win it'll land anywhere in the Win bar, including triangle. If it's a Jackpot it will land on the triangle.

Landing on Triangle doesn't mean Jackpot, but Jackpot will land on Triangle.

Check your Feeling Lucky buff the next Kinpin play. ANY win more than your Coins back will consume the remainder of the Feeling Lucky on click. Before any spinning.

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aerockyul
06.14.2017 , 09:17 PM | #17
The lack of reading comprehension is literally painful. It's clear some people have better powers of visual observation and the disconnect between visual design and actual design in these slot machines, while others have the incredible power of making obtuse observations about things that were never said or implied. My only hope is someone who actually matters (and isn't a self-righteous player who pretends they were in on the design process) will notice the design flaw now and either acknowledge that it means nothing or let us know it isn't working as intended.
The above example about the visual design being tied to the way the Contraband Slot Machine is supposed to work makes a lot of sense, and would further point to something being wrong here.
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bakerfist
06.15.2017 , 04:01 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by docbenwayddo View Post
You click-
RNG Decides Win/Loss
RNG Decides Prize
THEN graphic starts spinning the wheel If it's a win it'll land anywhere in the Win bar, including triangle. If it's a Jackpot it will land on the triangle.

Landing on Triangle doesn't mean Jackpot, but Jackpot will land on Triangle.

Check your Feeling Lucky buff the next Kinpin play. ANY win more than your Coins back will consume the remainder of the Feeling Lucky on click. Before any spinning.
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Rrusalka
06.15.2017 , 04:11 AM | #19
Yeah ignore the kingpin slot completely. It is all in the buff if you click and if the buff instantly disappears you've got a certificate, mount or companion. The other two chances tell you nothing about jackpots only green for getting a chip back and red for losing a chip.

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Icestar
06.15.2017 , 04:23 AM | #20
I got three jackpots yesterday.