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Iokath... Republic vs Empire

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Iokath... Republic vs Empire

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MrMcmadness
05.22.2017 , 09:03 PM | #11
Always remember, the sith are all about telling lies to your face with a smile and a nice offer that often seems too good to be true.
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Celise
05.23.2017 , 02:15 AM | #12
my LS heretic SW chose the republic without any hesitation or regrets, why? because he has a lot in common with the republic besides where someone is born, he also got both Quinn and Elara as well as companions. he has no place to discriminate, he just chose the republic because the galaxy doesn't need to be beholden to ideals that wouldn't go anywhere like the Sith would. fighting each other is pointless and destructive and anyone left to rise from the ashes would have to build on the remains of the old empire and effectively start from zero.

Also having the assistance of the republic could mean he could help some light side sith cornered by dark side sith and get them out of trouble and show the republic that not every sith despite their training are all evil sadistic monsters, some want to save lives, act selflessly and continue to follow the sith code. The Jedi should be more welcoming of people like this, who only have good in their heart.

He is proud to be a sith, but he just as proud to help people and giving without a thought to himself. he allows his passions and emotions to run free and he uses it for the right reasons even though it's very perverted.

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Yezzan
05.23.2017 , 04:29 AM | #13
Newsflash, for force users, you are no longer Jedi or Sith; you have transcended. Even Satele has become amenable to the totality of the force : light and dark.

At this point you are neither a citizen of the Republic or the Empire. You are the ruler of your own world; Odessen. So, whichever, side you choose is up to you.

Most of your companions were loyal to YOU, not the empire or republic ( no idea why they did Dorne like that, at least Quinn showed he was loyal to you and not the empire).

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SteveTheCynic
05.23.2017 , 12:10 PM | #14
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At this point you are neither a citizen of the Republic or the Empire. You are the ruler of your own world; Odessen. So, whichever, side you choose is up to you.
Really? How do I choose "neither"? How do I choose "my side, the Eternal Alliance of which I am Emperor"?

And of course the Bounty Hunter was *NEVER* a citizen of either the Empire OR the Republic, so for a BH, this statement is not news.
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OldVengeance
05.23.2017 , 12:42 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Yezzan View Post
Newsflash, for force users, you are no longer Jedi or Sith; you have transcended. Even Satele has become amenable to the totality of the force : light and dark.

At this point you are neither a citizen of the Republic or the Empire. You are the ruler of your own world; Odessen. So, whichever, side you choose is up to you.

Most of your companions were loyal to YOU, not the empire or republic ( no idea why they did Dorne like that, at least Quinn showed he was loyal to you and not the empire).
Jedi and Sith Outlanders still act like they are Jedi and Sith respectively. Dorne aligning herself to the Empire again would have been very out of character.

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casirabit
05.23.2017 , 01:01 PM | #16
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My problem is: The Empire came to help me during a previous chapter. The Empress was convincing enough for me to form an alliance with her. This was furthered when they DIDNT try to retake the throne while I was stuck on Iokath.
Yes they came to help you on Voss, but that was after what Valiyn had done to their cities etc. Yes it was good then but then when you go back to Lokath, Acina who was supposed to be your ally goes behind your back and tries to take Lokath for the empire.

Yes the republic did the same but they never claimed to be your ally at the time.


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As opposed to the Republic who tried to have me assassinated.
Saresh was the one that tried to kill you, not the republic. She wasn't even the chancellor at the time. She only wanted one thing power and your alliance gave her means to do that. This was her doing, not anyone's else. She planned it and executed it though it backfired on her when the commander survived and had to face the commander.

Even if you kill her you get a letter (off the record lol) approving of what you did to Saresh, even if in the public they had to make it sound that you were wrong.
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casirabit
05.23.2017 , 01:03 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Yezzan View Post

Most of your companions were loyal to YOU, not the empire or republic ( no idea why they did Dorne like that, at least Quinn showed he was loyal to you and not the empire).

Quinn is only loyal to the warrior. Not anyone else and that is because of the history the warrior and Quinn has. He is loyal to the empire if you are from the republic or an agent, etc. The loyalty Quinn shows is only to the warrior and honesty he not going to be stupid again, and betray the warrior again......
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BradTheImpaler
05.24.2017 , 11:09 AM | #18
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Most of your companions were loyal to YOU, not the empire or republic ( no idea why they did Dorne like that, at least Quinn showed he was loyal to you and not the empire).
Yeah, what happened with Dorne felt odd. I mean, it's clear Havoc was effectively denounced and discharged from official service to the Republic when they went off to stage a guerrilla campaign against the Eternal Empire. The top brass wouldn't have wanted Dorne around any more than they wanted Aric Jorgan or Theron Shan. Heck, if you side with the Empire, Jace Malcolm says "Once an Imp, always an Imp." I just looked at Dorne and wanted to yell "Are you not hearing this?!"
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OldVengeance
05.24.2017 , 01:07 PM | #19
Elara's a very by the book person, abandoning the Republic military to fight an unsanctioned guerrilla war that is disavowed by the Republic (especially after the Supreme Commander offered her a job that helped her) doesn't seem like the type of thing she'd do. Unless Saresh or Malcolm specifically ordered her to commit warcrimes, I doubt she'd leave the Republic after everything she did to get there.

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Celise
05.24.2017 , 01:22 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by OldVengeance View Post
Elara's a very by the book person, abandoning the Republic military to fight an unsanctioned guerrilla war that is disavowed by the Republic (especially after the Supreme Commander offered her a job that helped her) doesn't seem like the type of thing she'd do. Unless Saresh or Malcolm specifically ordered her to commit warcrimes, I doubt she'd leave the Republic after everything she did to get there.
by ironically becoming the monster she detested and defected from?
whats your reasoning for that?