Damage Meters

And in a group of 8 people, they all die because of the boss hits the enrage timer.
With a dps meter we could easily see the the bounty hunter needs to do more dps so we help him achive that.

Without it all 8 people trying to improve even to 7 of them already are doing just fine.

Why should 7 of them suffer because 1 dosent know what hes doing?

I guess WoW is the only MMO with damage meters now.

"Go back to wow" is the standard frase from fanboys when they know they are acctually wrong but are asshamed to admit it.

It cracks me up how the people against dmg meters never have a valid arguement.

You say people will get flamed for being bad? I say dont be bad and you wont get flamed.

Also, just because you would rather spend your time running around killing mobs in an attempt to find the best rotation doesnt mean that those of us who want to see a breakdown of a timed session are wrong. I couldnt give a **** less how you spend your time bettering yourself so why does it bother you so much that I want to see a chart?

There's only one reason someone would not want meters in the game.

I'll give you a hint: TIMMY!!!

That makes no sense.

Damage meters are for people that don't want to be grouped with lazy people.

It seems silly to argue against damage meters since no one is forcing you to get an add on.

Damage meters are an important testing tool. They are limited for measuring performance in raid situations, but usually a good indication. At the very least, they help figure out who's asleep at the wheel.

I use to be in a very competitive guild in wow. And I wasn't the best, every week I looked over the meters and tried to find out where I could improve. the meters are a tool for improvement. I have to agree that the people who don't want them probably got burned at some point because they didn't want to put in the effort to make themselves better at the game.

If you want to play it your way and however you want. Fine , you go right ahead just don't expect the rest of the people in your group or raid to want to play with you. Why should they carry dead weight along when the game would be much more enjoyable for them if they had someone who did their part?

People who expect you to optimize are not ******es for doing so, they are the people who don't want to spend 5 hrs getting nowhere because the game is designed to be hard and is expecting you to know how to play your class right.

I have no problem with people who are new and are willing to learn. Its the people who have no desire/ make no effort at all to learn how to play the class they have chosen, join a group and then get pissed because people don't want them and call them out for it.

You may be paying your 15 a month to play how you want but the other people in your group are paying too. If you didn't want to play right then don't waste their time.

Damage meters are a much needed thing, and can only make this game better.

You can see what type of ex WOW players are attracted to this game.
I almost do not dare to say it but eumh ' could you go back to WOW'


Would like damage meters myself, improving my gameplay is fun.

havent read the thread and tobe honest didnt need to as its one of 100's on here about this issue.

I personaly do not like in game damage meters. They draw too much attention away from what matters in the game. However, I did use WWS or similar combat log reading forums. These to me were an invaluable tool when I was selecting a raid team or deciding on a recruits to the guild.

The arguments for both sides of this debate are all very valid and no one will back down on this. Now to me there realy is only 1 compromise to this that may appeal to both. The introduction of a combat log which will record into a readable file. This way we do not have to have dmg meters but people can then develop a forum based report for people to view after the raids.

You all know the kind of forums I am talking about and lets be honest, the information you could get from that was so much more informative than a crummy meter in the corner of your screen.