The poor business model of sub perks.

I agree the chapter as a reward was both a bigger reward and an unusual reward to begin with. And yeah, in hindsight, it probably wasn't the best idea. Though considering how many months you had to sub to get it, I'm glad it was a bigger reward than the other ones.



While they did give out another Party Jawa recently, it does look different than the other one. They also don't share a cooldown, so you can have both of them orbiting you at once! So I don't mind that... newer players got a goodie, and I got that same goodie and kept the one I already had. Nothing was lost, only gained.



I'm something of a decoration addict in this game. XD Seriously, I can spend hours at it! I find it a good way to relax. Which is why the main thing I wish I could get from the CE vendor is the decoration.



It's a well-meant idea! And yeah, the other concern I had is if the people who already had the chapter thought the new shiny wasn't of equal 'value' as the bonus chapter, and they'd feel cheated, and the unhappiness that would result. Personally, that wouldn't bother me so much, as I wasn't all that OMG thrilled with the chapter anyways, but I know for some it would, whether for exclusivity reasons against other players or just feeling like the new shiny wasn't worth what they paid for the bonus chapter originally.

In the end, I admit I honestly just have a serious negative reaction to people demanding special treatment or being entitled, especially when it comes to stuff like gaming. Being a Veruca Salt does not impress me. XD

your first mistake was thinking EA cares about anything other then subs and money. If the marketing data says sub rewards work, then EA will continue telling the devs to do them.

Your argument about it screwing over new players doesnt matter because the new players dont know what the sub rewards are all about and dont know if they should care or not.

EA wants subs. Subs mean money and look good on reports to the investors. Investors want money and reports that look good for confidence indicators.

If you dont like it, too bad. This is how business works in the real world.

That's not a fair comparison. It's more like the owner of the Walking Dead series producing a limited edition DVD collection for Season 2 that has an extra behind the scenes featurette and only selling it for a few months. If you didn't buy it then, too bad, you missed out, but you can still buy the regular DVD set just fine (which for TOR would be all the existing expansion chapters, which you can play just fine without the bonus chapter).

So the OP is like the guy who goes into Best Buy a year after the limited edition DVD set stopped being available and proceeds to throw a fit because he can't get the limited edition DVD set anymore, because he wanted it now!

Actually, I was appealing to EA's greed, if EA can make money of off people who don't sub consistently anyways, and get that in return at the same price for a sub, that's a healthy business model.

It is clear that a lot of people who are here, is afraid that they're toys wont be exclusive anymore, and therefor has very little real to base their opinion on, this is however pretty intelligent. Yet, I know I wont be subbing forever on this game, as I'm a casual. I find it odd though, that they chose to exercise this as it will hurt their income with us casual players and new players.

Which by the way, is the majority of the playerbase, not the elitist sub from the beginning count.

I feel that achievements shouldnt be linked to what you pay for. Subscriber rewards should be strictly related to cosmetic and convenience items, such a portable trainers and mobile cargo holds, stuff like that.
I wouldnt consider having paid 20 bucks in the month of march as much of an achievement and if I were an achievement hunter, I would be upset about not being able to complete the game because maybe I had a hard month and couldnt afford to pay a sub, or I was deployed for a few months in the armed forces and cancelled my sub while I was out. Seems silly.

This is where Bethesda gets it right where EAware fails:

Example: Fallout 4

You can purchase all their DLC expansions a la cart or you can purchase a Season Pass and get it for free. Bethesda/Activision knows people like me will probably end up buying all the content individually because I was busy at the time.

I know the EAware kids are looking at their watches and salivating toward that 5 o'clock happy hour in austin's trendy booze district but if they could stay an hour or so after work and package the HK mission and sell it in the cartel market for $25 bucks they can come into work the next day slightly hung over and see that there were multiples of purchases....

Your are wrong with that. with a limited edition dvd you can still watch season 2 on the regular release. new customers will NEVER be able to see the story locked in bw's previous perk. In a franchise that is all about story, this is unforgivable. not getting a pet, mount or companion is no where near as big a deal as leaving a hole where story should be. Again, I have access to it myself, but new customers do not. which I feel is a huge mistake for bw to make. That is my opinion, which differs from yours and others. I am not upset at you or anyone else over this, I just feel they made a mistake. Not much either of us can do about it anyway.

For most bonus content I think it should stay for those that earned it. As for the Shroud of Memory bonus mission. It is fun to play and think it should be put on Cartel Market as an account wide unlock after 6 months from release. Make it 2500cc or whatever and that way those that earned it for free are happy. Those that didn't and want to play can now buy access to it.

I would not do this for any companions or such. Just any possible future bonus missions like SoM.

No. Not for $$. Not for CC. People can either build a flux capacitor or watch it on YouTube.

It was 8 months of subscribing,or $120 at the single month rate.

I do not believe that BW should ever make that BONUS chapter available again, but IF they chose to do so, it should be for REAL MONEY only, NOT CC's. There are way too many FREE CC's floating around. It should also cost more than that $120. There should be some additional cost for getting a "second chance", IMO.

Since you've already said (and I will paraphrase) "even if it costs more than the sub reward", would you be willing to pay $150 in real money for access to that chapter? Or, are your words empty and nothing more than false pretenses? Even if you were willing to pay $150 for access to that chapter, how many others do you think would be willing to do so?