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Same sex romancing, confirm/deny.

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Same sex romancing, confirm/deny.

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Raiellyn
12.28.2011 , 12:20 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Wikrosa View Post
Wow I really dont beleive any of this is actually confirmed except that it would be implemented post-launch and that current ones wont be changed..
See, I have yet to hear anything about that second bit. From the only quote I've seen posted officially;

"Due to the design constraints of a fully voiced MMO of this scale and size, many choices had to be made as to the launch and post-launch feature set. Same gender romances with companion characters in Star Wars: The Old Republic will be a post-launch feature. Because The Old Republic is an MMO, the game will live on through content expansions which allow us to include content and features that could not be included at launch, including the addition of more companion characters who will have additional romance options."
(http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/09...ons-eventuall/)

I don't advise reading the comments, however. They border on chaotic-stupid.

From the context of the wording, it really doesn't say either way. They mention that they intend to add s/s romance, and that there will be new companions down the line. But the two statements are seperated. From the way I read it, it seemed like they were keeping the door open on both options (adding new gay characters and changing current ones), like "hey, there will be some new romance options. And some of them might be new companions down the line!"

I really wouldn't take that as a confirmation that current companions will not be changed, however. Of the two, which is easier?

1: Adding only new romance dialogue for already fleshed-out characters, and most of the lines only need to swap out pronouns.

2: Adding two whole new companions, one male and one female, for every class to pick up (I assume it would be for every class, like the droid on your ship.) That would require the entire game to have dialogue for them to respond to any situation you take them on, and they would need to have different reactions for each class-story. And that's assuming they take the *easy* way out.

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Wittand
12.28.2011 , 03:13 AM | #12
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Due to the design constraints of a fully voiced MMO of this scale and size, many choices had to be made as to the launch and post-launch feature set. Same gender romances with companion characters in Star Wars: The Old Republic will be a post-launch feature. Because The Old Republic is an MMO, the game will live on through content expansions which allow us to include content and features that could not be included at launch, including the addition of more companion characters who will have additional romance options.
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Deadsaber: Waste of time just to cater to a couple of people when they could be spending the time on better more worth wide content.

In response to Deadsaber, Stephen Reid followed up with another post to his original thread:

First of all, this is definitely not an audience that consists of a ‘couple of people’ and we’re aware of that. We take this decision very seriously.
Second, it’s very important to realize that this is just one of many, many content additions that will be going into the game post launch. The vast majority of our content will be of interest to the vast majority of our potential audience.
However, one of the amazing things about MMOs is that over time we can get to add things that are exciting and interesting to smaller audiences. Normally, that’s not something that’s addressed too far ahead of time. In this case, we felt the addition was warranted and should be addressed early.
There will be plenty of content for all to play and enjoy.
There is also a third post by Reid addressing this topic, regarding the change of existing romances, saying that it is considered to allow same sex romances for existing NPCs. Sadly I cannot find it right now, since all the old forums got inaccessible. And I am not sure if the posting was talking about companions for existing characters (that could cause a lot of problems and odd behaviour I am afraid) or changing the companions only for newly created characters (like say for any smuggler created before gay day Corso is straight, but if you create a smuggler after that day he is bisexual, though in his case this would make his approval points rather weird if what you read on the forum is true)

Anyway the last paragraph in the second post makes me hopeful that SGRAs are close to being finished or are already in the internal testing phase and will be live soon.

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Temprienne
12.28.2011 , 03:18 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Rainbowdesu View Post
It does indeed seem likely that if we see same sex romancing they will introduce new companion instead of re-doing the conversations of all the old ones, thus avoiding the problem with players already completing the storyline with their companion. Shame though, really liked Vette.
That is indeed a shame. I was going through my Jedi Guardian quests today and was really disappointed that there was no romancing Kira as my character is female.

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WhoDaresWins
12.28.2011 , 05:26 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Pawtry View Post
I'm willing to believe the rumors given Bioware's pretty good history in its previous games for allowing same sex relationships.
Eh, Dragon Age is the only BioWare series with homosexual relationships. Liara doesn't count since she is genderless.

I always found the "Everybody is bisexual" thing a little odd in video games. I mean, everybody is either completely straight or everybody is willing to leap into the pants of anybody... only DA1 was the exception.
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Banetek
12.28.2011 , 05:47 AM | #15
I object to any mention of homosexual behavior or homosexual romance. The same way people object to having christmas in star wars ( although it is hehe )


BTW Im going thru and reporting every post that strays off topic or mentions **** phobia as its ok to object to something in the game with out being phobic.

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The_Reap
12.28.2011 , 05:48 AM | #16
I don't understand why this thing of the s/s relationship is so important for you... SWTOR it's only a game launched 8 days ago and in this game there are many bugs... Bioware must fixs the bugs and the UI and only after thinks at this stupid "problem" (for me this isn't a problem)...
if you want to see a homosexual relationship (or if you want to have one) don't buy and play this game, exit from your house and live your life...

IMHO play a game like SWTOR only for have a homosexual relationship it's really creepy...

p.s. sorry for my bad english... i'm italian...

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Banetek
12.28.2011 , 05:51 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by The_Reap View Post
I don't understand why this thing of the s/s relationship is so important for you... SWTOR it's only a game launched 8 days ago and in this game there are many bugs... Bioware must fixs the bugs and the UI and only after thinks at this stupid "problem" (for me this isn't a problem)...
if you want to see a homosexual relationship (or if you want to have one) don't buy and play this game, exit from your house and live your life...

IMHO play a game like SWTOR only for have a homosexual relationship it's really creepy...

p.s. sorry for my bad english... i'm italian...

I agree , it would be creepy to see that and besides if they allow homosexual relationships in the game than they have to pander to other minority groups wanting their life styles in the game.. Multiple partners, interspecies etc. I think its only right to leave things as they are.

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DuskD
12.28.2011 , 05:51 AM | #18
[Sarcastic MODE: ON] Nooooooooo!!! There was a brilliant post about the lack of validity of the word "homophobic" seasoned with valid arguments like "left leaned homosexual atheists", and someone deleted it, you don't know what you missed.

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Mangaminx
12.28.2011 , 05:57 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by WhoDaresWins View Post
Eh, Dragon Age is the only BioWare series with homosexual relationships. Liara doesn't count since she is genderless.

I always found the "Everybody is bisexual" thing a little odd in video games. I mean, everybody is either completely straight or everybody is willing to leap into the pants of anybody... only DA1 was the exception.
Jade Empire is another Bioware game with same-sex romances (and imho the best done ones too).

While you may not think Liara counts she looks female to the human eye and thats enough for the vast majority of people to include this as a same-sex romance option in their minds. I'm sure the vast majority of people who romanced her as a female Shepherd were not going "wow romancing this sexless alien is great" (although thats a debate for another time).

Kinda agree with the "everyone is bi-sexual angle" not really working though. Dragon Age 1 and Jade Empire did it "right".

Back on topic as a gay female I'd quite like to see same-sex romances in the game at some point, but there are way more priorities to be sorted before this is done.

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Raiellyn
12.28.2011 , 06:07 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by The_Reap View Post
IMHO play a game like SWTOR only for have a homosexual relationship it's really creepy...
It's not really like LGBT members such as myself are hoping to turn the game into nothing but a romantic simulation, with moon-lit dinners and strolls on the beach.

Romance is already in the game. It is a nice bonus, and provides a vast opportunity for roleplaying purposes and character-interaction, which this entire game is about. It's no more creepy than the people who originally asked Bioware to make Tali a romance option in Mass Effect. (Granted, that got creepy after-the-fact when people began to break down the chemical composition of her sweat... But I digress!)

Besides, that is neither here nor there. Bioware has already confirmed that it *will* be added. The only question left is how they will add it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Banetek View Post
I agree , it would be creepy to see that and besides if they allow homosexual relationships in the game than they have to pander to other minority groups wanting their life styles in the game.. Multiple partners, interspecies etc. I think its only right to leave things as they are.
Just... *sigh*
No. Slippery slope does not work like that. At the very least, I'm glad you didn't mention "animals" in that list.
But the game already has interspecies romance. Sith Warrior/Vette springs to mind immediately.
And as for multiple partners? Jade Empire. As a male character, you could end up having a male character get into a threesome with Dawn Star and Silk Fox.
Did I mention that they were cousins?

To restate myself, the topic is now invalid. It was a plea for a confirmation or denial of whether s/s romance would be added.

It will be.

This is not a topic about whether you believe it should or not.