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"Good Guys"


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TheNitromunkey
12.27.2011 , 09:29 AM | #1
Why does it seem that the even though the Republic are the "Good Guys", They are complete jerks?

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DEGO_FETT
12.27.2011 , 09:39 AM | #2
There are no "good guys" or "bad guys" in Star Wars. Each 'side' has its own agenda and reasoning behind their goal.

Big picture-wise, if anyone would be 'bad', it would be the rebels. Their operation somewhat resembles terrorism.

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Roma_Akyma
12.27.2011 , 09:43 AM | #3
Just like Obi Wan said "from a certain point of view"

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WildSide
12.27.2011 , 09:44 AM | #4
Because not EVERYONE in the Republic are "good guys", just like not EVERYONE in the Empire are "bad guys". To me, it's like Lawful Evil/Chaotic Good. I've heard some say there can be on such thing as "Chaotic Good".

It is possible to have corrupt politicians(bending and manipulating the system to their will, for money or power), and moral outlaws(either for ideals that are not embraced by the powers-that-be, or because they are just tired of seeing the system walk over or ignore innocent cries for help).

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RiledRodian
12.27.2011 , 02:58 PM | #5
Because they aren't the "good guys."
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ObiQuiYett
12.27.2011 , 03:54 PM | #6
The Republic is represented as "good" because their government allows for at least the appearance of a democracy, or rule by the people.

The Empire, conversely, is ruled by one, which means that it can either be wholly good or wholly evil (this is true even if the chain of command branching beneath is intermingled with both corrupt and wholesome officials as all ultimately represent the head of state). In this case, it is rule by an Emperor wholly consumed by the Dark Side and hellbent on conquering and subduing all opponents.

The Empire, being ruled by the Sith, both in culture and in effect, will find it difficult to eliminate the connotation of "evil" as the Dark Side ultimately drives its practitioners into doing many actions that are, in essence, evil. Without the Sith, however, you have simply an autocracy, which is not necessarily an evil or even conquering force. (Ex. New Republic Era shows an alliance with the New Republic and the Imperial "Remnant" with a benevolent leader at its head)

Conclusion: Republic is "good" because it isn't an Empire ruled by an evil emperor.

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dakoth
12.28.2011 , 03:41 AM | #7
Republic vs Empire is basically Democracy vs Communism. There are bad democrats just as there are good communists.

If you're looking for good and evil, look no further than Jedi and Sith. But do not make the presumption that all Empire are Sith, and all Republic are Jedi.

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KnightDLR
12.28.2011 , 04:10 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by dakoth View Post
Republic vs Empire is basically Democracy vs Communism.
Not sure I would call the Empire a "communist' style government, it's seems a bit more along the lines of a Fascist government (two different things). If you wanted something more blanket-like, Totalitarian is probably a better term to use for the Empire.
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Devlonir
12.28.2011 , 04:17 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by KnightDLR View Post
Not sure I would call the Empire a "communist' style government, it's seems a bit more along the lines of a Fascist government (two different things). If you wanted something more blanket-like, Totalitarian is probably a better term to use for the Empire.
Agreed, The Empire does not even have the face-value of being for the people and equality. It is actually a Totalitarian, 'survival-of-the-fittest' style of government. Where as the Republic is Democracy and protect-the-weak.

The brilliance of Star Wars, and especially Old Republic era, is that neither system is shown as perfect. They are actually both shown as inherently flawed. With the Republic being run by corrupt politicians and the Empire being run by a small ruling class bent on enslaving the entire galaxy to their rule.
Actually.. the Empire itself is very hypocritical in the top layer (aka the Sith). They run a militaristic Empire where one must abide by the rules, while the Sith teachings actually teach one to make your own rules, make your own power. They created a system where their 'followers' are forced to live in a way that is not by their teachings.

Guess that partly explains the 'Rule of 2' that is later introduced in Sith teaching. There is no widespread breaking of their own code if there is only one Master and one Apprentice.

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jmjon
12.28.2011 , 04:30 AM | #10
The rampant xenophobia and slavery in the Empire certainly doesn't help their case. Honestly some of their policies are outright retarded. Their intelligence agents are automatically executed if they fail a mission. A mission, any one, even after long decorated careers of being exceptional assets. I mean, is there any other system that actively ENCOURAGES the defection of the people you least want defecting better than that?