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Hacks being rehashed AGAIN

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TrixxieTriss
12.09.2016 , 06:02 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsetso View Post
Not that i know of. And honestly - hacking capital of the world? With <6 million people and the worst standard of life in the whole EU. Yes, IT is paid pretty well, considering the country's standard of life but most of the young IT specialists go to work in Germany or UK soon after graduating.
I wasn't trying to put them down, it's just I saw a documentary recently that said most of the organised hacking crime in the world comes from that country.
I'm sure the actual students and specialists head off as soon as they can.
But it may not have been Bulgaria that the Dev team said, it may have been Romania or another country close to them.
They said it on one of the live streams leading up to the expansion.
I also wasn't being serious, I was saying how ironic it would be if that was the case

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Tsetso
12.09.2016 , 06:09 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
I wasn't trying to put them down, it's just I saw a documentary recently that said most of the organised hacking crime in the world comes from that country.
I'm sure the actual students and specialists head off as soon as they can.
But it may not have been Bulgaria that the Dev team said, it may have been Romania or another country close to them.
They said it on one of the live streams leading up to the expansion.
I also wasn't being serious, I was saying how ironic it would be if that was the case
As far as I know biggest hacker groups are in Russia and China, but i can't provide source about that too.
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Tiffanitte
12.10.2016 , 02:16 AM | #13
People cheat, they always will. But the only thing I agree with, that's the most damaging, is that people become discouraged and quit. That's the part that hurts the most.

This new Command system makes it worse. Hackers and cheaters are coming out full force to get max. CXP.

On Ebon Hawk it's bad, really bad with cheats and hackers in WZ's.

Bioware doesn't care. It's not about the players. SAD.

It's only gonna get worse as time marches on.
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TrixxieTriss
12.10.2016 , 03:30 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsetso View Post
As far as I know biggest hacker groups are in Russia and China, but i can't provide source about that too.
I think we are talking about two different things but are closely related.
I'll try to clarify.
I agree that china and Russia probably have the biggest hacker groups for actually hacking into and stealing things, causing havoc or espionage.
What I was referring to is the "organised crime" version of hacking, malware, ransomware, setting up credit scams, stealing money through hacking, etc. ie, imagine it sort of like the Italian mob decided to run the organised crime of the internet and had their sticky criminal fingers in the hacking world.
The documentary I saw was referring to Bulgaria or (edit) some previous eastern block country as being the source of "organised hacking crime" in the world. They said it contributed to some massive percentage of the city/country's economy and in a round about way contributed to the GDP of the country. I can't remember the percentage, but I do remember being blown away by the number, which I'm sure was over 60% or higher.
I'll try and find the documentary, but I don't know if it's online. I hope it is, I can't emphasise enough at how blown away I was at the numbers. They even went and interviewed everyday citizens and they were part of it.

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DarrelK
12.10.2016 , 03:45 AM | #15
Dot Dot on TRE started hacking too. First hacker I've seen this season there.

(By the way, about Bulgaria - that's definitely bs. Software engineering is very big here (well, big on a scale of 6 million population country), but hacking is just not viable income, compared to the safety of outsourcing or joining a game dev studio (quite a bit of them here). Source - am software developer in Bulgaria. In case you are wondering about Jeezee = he is Russian)
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TrixxieTriss
12.10.2016 , 04:19 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiffanitte View Post
People cheat, they always will. But the only thing I agree with, that's the most damaging, is that people become discouraged and quit. That's the part that hurts the most.

This new Command system makes it worse. Hackers and cheaters are coming out full force to get max. CXP.

On Ebon Hawk it's bad, really bad with cheats and hackers in WZ's.

Bioware doesn't care. It's not about the players. SAD.

It's only gonna get worse as time marches on.
I wanted to play 8 matches today before I had to go out, so I had limited time and zero patience for cheats or other idiots. Out of the 12 I tried to to play, 7 matches had cheats on either my team or theirs or both and 3 had complete idiots. I ended up only finishing 4 matches because I won't waste my time playing with cheats and the faceroll idiots were nearly as bad today. Out of those 4 we won none.

The only match I stayed in with a cheat was to teach him a lesson on how cheating won't help him. He was on a Jugg trying to guard east in nova. My tactic on my Sent is to nearly always transcend/camo to the nova speed buff and go straight to east. 99% of the time I get there before they can cap. 50% of the time they don't send anyone, the other half is me soloing someone to then cap it. Today I stopped the Jugg, killed him, respawns, kill him, respawns., kill... etc.. he was teleporting, floating, going through the walls to escape me.. and I'm pretty sure he was trying to lag switch too (extremely badly I might add).
Killed him 6 times till some of friends finally left Sth to try help him. Three of them still couldn't kill me, but the other two weren't cheating, no weird stuff with them and also no lag switch unless the Jugg was next to them. As soon as I killed the Jugg the switching would stop. I didn't focus his friends except to cc or mez, I just stayed on him all match to rub his grubby little nose in the dirt.
One other person on my team saw the fun I was having against 3 and came to help. The two of us just kept smashing this Jugg over and over. I think we set a record for how many times he has ever died in a WZ, lol. I didn't see him in any other matches, so hopefully he learnt his lesson. If not, he's on my naughty list and if I see him I will just focus him all match again if he is cheating.

Hacks don't make people better players, it actually ends up making them even worse than before they tried to hack because their combat skills get worse and non hackers are always improving.

How many of you long time players have seen a patch in the past come out and notice previously pvp "god like" people turn to crap over night after Bio patch the code.
It's like one minute, "I'm the king of pvp and I troll everyone in chat", to OMG what's happening, why am I dying so fast. It's because they can't really play and they turn into the biggest noobs who have ever played swtor..
I've always liked those patches when this happens, I take full advantage of roflstomping those people. Revenge is sweet. Unfortunately it's not for long. It only takes about a week for the hackers to find work arounds and then they return to trolling in chat.
But what it does do is show you who the real cheats are in the game. The ones that use them on very subtle settings to give them just the right amount of advantage without giving themselves away... and there are way more than people think. In the past I've seen whole dedicated pvp guilds reduced to tears after a patch, but come back strong a week later. As well as certain individuals who are loud mouths (they are usually the biggest hack deniers in chat or the forums) and people think are good,

Bioware have become lax in fixing these code issues over the years, so you don't see this as much anymore. But keep an eye out for it because it may happen soon with all the increase in hack reports and it also usually happens soon after they take care of the hack troll

Good luck and go hunt some hackers 😈

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TrixxieTriss
12.10.2016 , 04:26 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by DarrelK View Post
Dot Dot on TRE started hacking too. First hacker I've seen this season there.

(By the way, about Bulgaria - that's definitely bs. Software engineering is very big here (well, big on a scale of 6 million population country), but hacking is just not viable income, compared to the safety of outsourcing or joining a game dev studio (quite a bit of them here). Source - am software developer in Bulgaria. In case you are wondering about Jeezee = he is Russian)
I wasn't sure if it was Bulgaria or not, I know it was a previous eastern block country that still had economy problems. For some reason Bulgaria stuck in my mind, sorry for that. But now I really want to find that doco so I can know the country. I know it's not Russia.
I believe WoW has a serious issue with Russian game hackers on the EU servers, or they used to. I remember reading something about them merging the Russians servers into other EU servers and the Germans, French and English were raging at Blizzard to get them back off their servers because of the rampant hacking.

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Thaladan
12.10.2016 , 01:09 PM | #18
stop ranked, this is pathetic and you participate to this ridiculous pvp.

just all stop this and maybe after, they will change this supposed high rank joke PvP.
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Razortron
12.11.2016 , 06:48 PM | #19
Playing a Merc/Mando in PvP patch 5.0 is like hacking.

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TrixxieTriss
12.11.2016 , 09:37 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaladan View Post
stop ranked, this is pathetic and you participate to this ridiculous pvp.

just all stop this and maybe after, they will change this supposed high rank joke PvP.
So what should we do in the game? I only pvp and so do many others.