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Hacks being rehashed AGAIN

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Hacks being rehashed AGAIN

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TrixxieTriss
12.08.2016 , 08:55 PM | #1
I'm not even sure why I'm even bothering to post this, we've all heard it before, but I'm pissed 😡 hacks are back again. Bioware are too slack to stop it themselves and rely on us to police it for 3-6 months by reporting people. Eventually they either fix the broken code or most of the hackers leave pvp. Most of the old time pvpers know both Icy and myself can tell the difference between a hack and ledgitmate play or you should know after all the threads and proof.

Let me shorten the thread for once without having to rehash it in detail.

Same old hacks being used as they were in the past again. They've been popping up over and over since launch.

This is how it starts
Hack troll appears in ranked, advertising what he is doing and that he's found another broken code they supposedly fixed. He shares them with others who share them with more people.
They learn not to use them as blatantly as he does so they don't draw too much attention to themselves and people get confused about what they saw. The scrubs take it into regs where lots of people can't tell the difference from an ability, mechanic or hack.
The really bad scrubs get hold of them because they think it will make them good, but all it does is prove they are scrubs because they can't play without them, most don't even know how to hide them and they stick out. Then they troll regs, sometimes in groups and often abuse the other team. This reduces the queue as people quit.

Because so many pve people have joined pvp and find they aren't good enough, they are starting to hack. I've seen a big increase on the private hacker forums of people asking for hacks to swtor and they are getting them and then confirming on the same forums that they work.

So, this post is longer than I meant it to be. But this what I wanted to say at the beginning and before people ask.

Do I have proof. Yes
Did I report. Not yet, I'm report fatigued
Will I share or post this proof lol. The answer is obvious I can't
What are they doing, ie description. They are using most of the normal ones. Clip, teleport, speed, floating to avoid damage, going through walls, capping while stealthed, etc.

Hacks are bad for the game, it ruins people's experience and ultimately stops people from playing. If you can't play without hacking, don't play.


***** BIOWARE IMPLEMENT A ZERO CHEAT POLICY FOR GODS SAKE LIKE YOU DO WITH OTHER CHEATING****

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frosttj
12.08.2016 , 09:22 PM | #2
What server are you on? I've yet to see anything resembling hacking on any of the servers I play on.

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TrixxieTriss
12.08.2016 , 11:44 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by frosttj View Post
What server are you on? I've yet to see anything resembling hacking on any of the servers I play on.
Harbinger.

Have you not seen the usual troll in ranked? He was everywhere a few days ago. There are some trying out his hacks in regs. They have the settings set really low. So you really need to have eye for it, unless it's something blatant like capping while stealthed.

Just had a healer operative in Hypergates keep melting into the big square brick in mid so we couldn't hit him. Everytime he came out we ganked him, but just when he was close to dying he melted back in. So frustrating.
Had another person walk through the void star door just a few games ago and go cap the bridge before the first door was open. Idiot was on my team and I called him on it. He just said it's for lulz. At that point I left, I don't want to be associated with cheats.
Then there are the more subtle ones happening like floating above the ground so people cant hit you. This often gets mistaken for a graphics glitch because it does happen. But when you are soloing off on their own and not one ability hits in a minute, then you know it's dodgy. There are a few of those around at the moment, but also the glitch is happening too. The only way to confirm if you can't spot it is to run the combat log and record at the same time. Then you can match up the engagement and see if they took any damage from you or was everyone of your abilities a miss. I run the combat log through a parse program, so I can see everything really easy.
What I'm seeing the most is the melting into walls or through them. I'm still trying to distinguish a few I "think" may have been speed hacks, but it's hard to tell at the moment because of all the speed boost utility choices. I started a thread last week to ask if anyone could make a chart or list for the max possible speed for each class with all speed utilities, but I guess it won't happen. I'll have to try and do it myself.
I tell you, I have report fatigue in this game. If you aren't reporting cheats, it's bugs, exploits or trying to get CS to help with something the game stuffed up.
I've honestly never played a game out of beta phase that requires as much from its players as this one does. We basically police and QC the game for Bioware because they won't higher people or put systems in place to reduce it.

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-Bob-
12.09.2016 , 01:24 AM | #4
oh yeah he was back. it's like driving a JEEP on water with ZEERO chance of sinking. i quit Queing when the hacker returned.
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Luxey
12.09.2016 , 05:18 AM | #5
You mean like in Nova Coast where Sage can trigger the mid terminal while they are (far) OUTSIDE the trigger zone ... I've seen that many many times and it is not fixed !

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TrixxieTriss
12.09.2016 , 05:26 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Luxey View Post
You mean like in Nova Coast where Sage can trigger the mid terminal while they are (far) OUTSIDE the trigger zone ... I've seen that many many times and it is not fixed !
That's a bug, not a hack. But it's still a cheat, so it sucks when people use an exploits like that.

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Tsetso
12.09.2016 , 05:31 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Luxey View Post
You mean like in Nova Coast where Sage can trigger the mid terminal while they are (far) OUTSIDE the trigger zone ... I've seen that many many times and it is not fixed !
That's the result of incompetent implementation of phase walk by the devs. And imo it's a bug but they never acknowledged it and obviously never fixed it.
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Alec_Fortescue
12.09.2016 , 05:36 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by -Bob- View Post
oh yeah he was back. it's like driving a JEEP on water with ZEERO chance of sinking. i quit Queing when the hacker returned.
Haha, I see what you did there. Bioware's leniency is absolutely pathetic. These are same people who keep harassing rest of the players over and over. There are ways of dealing with it and slowing down their comeback.

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TrixxieTriss
12.09.2016 , 05:49 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Alec_Fortescue View Post
Haha, I see what you did there. Bioware's leniency is absolutely pathetic. These are same people who keep harassing rest of the players over and over. There are ways of dealing with it and slowing down their comeback.
Didnt they recently say they have a QA testing team in Bulgaria or somewhere? Isn't that the hacking capital of the world?
From the posts JEEp has posted in the past, we know he can't speak English very well. So, maybe they don't do anything to him because he's one of their testers
Now that would be irony, their QA team does they're job so well that they can hack the game, they tell Bio about the problems. Bio do nothing as per usual, so JEEp shows everyone the problem by hacking in pvp. They try to stop him, but find they need him in 6 months to QA again because they can't do it.
Rinse and repeat.

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Tsetso
12.09.2016 , 05:53 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
Didnt they recently say they have a QA testing team in Bulgaria or somewhere? Isn't that the hacking capital of the world?
Not that i know of. And honestly - hacking capital of the world? With <6 million people and the worst standard of life in the whole EU. Yes, IT is paid pretty well, considering the country's standard of life but most of the young IT specialists go to work in Germany or UK soon after graduating.
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