It's it just me or is cleave damage going to be insane in 5.0? Vanguard's and pt's get a new instant aoe, pyros aoe is also a dot spread, then shatter slug, ops and scoundrels with instant aoe attacks. Imagine two pts leap in double carb and dump 3 forms of mobile instant aoe. I can't predict what this Meta will look like. In 4 v 4 you could place two ops near whoever your targeting and hit at least two people with 4 sets of pretty hard hitting aoe at one time. Stealth makes that seem really flexible. A mix of mezz and carb to catch targets in a group. It's gonna be fun trying to break this.

Hmm. I'm I strange? That actually does sound kinda fun to me.

Yeah I was honestly thinking the same thing.