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Treek is broken, worthless, we paid REAL MONEY for her.

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Treek is broken, worthless, we paid REAL MONEY for her.

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Lil_Fusion
04.17.2016 , 05:23 PM | #51
First of all I didn't pay for Treek with REAL MONEY I bought her when she was released for 1 million credits since having level 40 legacy isn't really tough to get to by advancing through the stories of the game, at least then, probably heaps faster now. Second of all I never saw her as OP except in the instance that she was obtainable at level 10 and was a healer so you didn't have to wait for your healer respectively on different characters when companions actually had set specific roles. Third of all i'd rather use another companion than her with the 80 options we have now since they're all the same and I have her 1000 kills for that achievement respectively.
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ZioGio
04.17.2016 , 05:24 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
When Treek was released, I was not legacy level 40. I purchased mine from the GTN for credits, courtesy of players who look to convert CCs into credits via the CM.

The OP never had to actually spend real money to get Treek, not from day one, and not now.
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Andryah
04.17.2016 , 05:54 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by ZioGio View Post
And we're all very proud for you, your business acumen, and your ability to fixate on one specific point of a deeper issue.
I see that facts are scary for you.

And there is no deeper issue here, other then some peoples fixation with differences in different companions abilities in this post 4.0 generic companion peanut butter shift by the studio.

I do use Treek on some of my characters and frankly, she's fine in all stances, with decent level influence. I can't get worked up over differences amongst the companions.. seeing as one way or the other... they all have had differences since launch.

Is she the prima-goddess she was back when she released and all the other companions had severe restrictions on what they could and none of them had stances? NO, primarily because most of the others got severely buffed up in 4.0 and ALL of them got all three stances.
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ZioGio
04.17.2016 , 06:15 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I see that facts are scary for you.

And there is no deeper issue here, other then some peoples fixation with differences in different companions abilities in this post 4.0 generic companion peanut butter shift by the studio.

I do use Treek on some of my characters and frankly, she's fine in all stances, with decent level influence. I can't get worked up over differences amongst the companions.. seeing as one way or the other... they all have had differences since launch.

Is she the prima-goddess she was back when she released and all the other companions had severe restrictions on what they could and none of them had stances? NO, primarily because most of the others got severely buffed up in 4.0 and ALL of them got all three stances.
And apparently briefing yourself on the whole issue is just as scary for you.

In all seriousness, I appreciate the follow-up. The bottom line is Treek appears to have stat issues for some and definitely has influence issues post 4.0. We can debate how we acquired Treek in the past, but that's, well, in the past.

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LordGermanicuss
04.17.2016 , 10:25 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I see that facts are scary for you.

And there is no deeper issue here, other then some peoples fixation with differences in different companions abilities in this post 4.0 generic companion peanut butter shift by the studio.

I do use Treek on some of my characters and frankly, she's fine in all stances, with decent level influence. I can't get worked up over differences amongst the companions.. seeing as one way or the other... they all have had differences since launch.

Is she the prima-goddess she was back when she released and all the other companions had severe restrictions on what they could and none of them had stances? NO, primarily because most of the others got severely buffed up in 4.0 and ALL of them got all three stances.

Acquiring her is not the main issue, we have her, we just want her fixed. A comp that takes TWICE AS LONG to heal up than another one is NOT fine. Again, Treek at lvl 50 influence takes 38 seconds to heal herself while a lvl 40 influence HK only takes 18, that's not okay, Get Her to even 25 and most would be fine with that as it's not much difference, but currently she's broken and useless. Though if you want to see a funny movie, finish your heroic Star Fortress, then get Treek out before you run out and when you take off, it will show her back there gun thing blazing away at the people who are running after the plane, I've not gotten it to show any other comp back there, they are all in the front part of the ship.

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SkepticShockwave
05.12.2016 , 03:19 AM | #56
Treek is a lot more broken than other companions right now. When i first suspected it i did countless duels with my Lvl 50 treek vs my Guildmates Lvl 10 Koth. Treek lost every time. Tried doing a few flashpoints on my Knight too with my Lvl 1 Treek and my Lvl 10 T7 both as tank. Treek never held aggro, T7 held it constantly. She wasn't always the best healer but she was always the best tank. Now she has been nerfed to the ground. People paid real money for this, biofail pls fix this and at least make her on par with other comps.
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demotivator
05.12.2016 , 05:52 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by JediQuaker View Post
And, in spite of what some people say, Treek never really was all that wonderful. I never found her to be particularly better than any other companion, just different.

I've also spent REAL MONEY on armor and weapons from the CM, and they're NO BETTER THAN RANDOM DROPS!!
Pre 4.0 Treek was a very effective healer compared to the other ones due to her strong abilities. Tank-wise she was a god for one reason: she doesn't break CC, something that was really missing on all the other companions.
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Crossward
05.12.2016 , 07:15 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
When Treek was released, I was not legacy level 40. I purchased mine from the GTN for credits, courtesy of players who look to convert CCs into credits via the CM.

The OP never had to actually spend real money to get Treek, not from day one, and not now.
I would argue in that case that in your case Treek was still purchased with real money, and you convinced someone to sell it to you for credits. IF the issue is that items purchased with real money that provide a different type of gameplay (as the original Treek did with her tank/healing combination that at the time was unique) should remain the same or be as desirable as they've always been, then I don't think your experience changes the argument.

Of course, since Treek could be acquired for 1m credits at LL40 with no real life money being paid, I don't know if I can follow TC's premise. Given that Treek is available without CCs, you're essentially paying CC to speed up the acquisition of Treek.


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Sporetox
05.12.2016 , 08:45 AM | #59
I see your point. But I'd leave out mentioning the real money cost. Especially since that's all players seem to be fixating on.

Just looking at numbers now, Treek is objectively the worst. Which is a shame, as Treek used to be the best.

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Andryah
05.12.2016 , 09:33 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Sporetox View Post
I see your point. But I'd leave out mentioning the real money cost. Especially since that's all players seem to be fixating on.

Just looking at numbers now, Treek is objectively the worst. Which is a shame, as Treek used to be the best.
Exactly. He even put it in CAPS on the thread title... indicating that this IS his core issue. And I don't think he is oblivious what using all caps means. If you emphasize something.. it's going to get discussion, and if it is inaccurate.. it's going to get pushback.

In addition, he claims she is worthless, which is untrue. She does however work differently then she used to.. but then so do a lot of the companions, so I don't see a Treek specific issue in this regard.

IF the OP had simply conducted a thread topic about her current abilities and performance compared to other companions, and could demonstrate she is inferior... then this thread would have been actually good discussion. Nope.. instead he launches a rant thread with a rant title, and then some wonder why his yelling in the thread about real money being spent got pushback.

Personally, I miss Treeks unique ability set, but when I do play her, I don't find her to be a gimp. I do agree however that not all companions appear to work equally well... but that is not a Treek issue it's a larger issue with companions in general.
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