Game has died, Nowhere to go

You don't need to. The who tab doesn't lie. And the who tab says very clearly from 12 months ago, 10 months ago, 8 months ago, that the game is 100% no questions asked, un mistakenly, without any doubt about it depopulating. I could not care less about the change is server capacity loads and what it indicates on the selection screen. It means nothing. But the who tab does. And it shows me exactly how many people are in game. And I have a notepad right next to me that shows 100% that population is down. And down in a big way compared to 12, 10, 8 , 6, 4 months ago. Heck just in the past 7-10 days I have seen a drop in Harbinger much less going back a year ago.

Everyones playing The Division right now, its actually rather insane just how many people I know that are seriously hooked on that game...

"Even so...that doesn't change the fact that a year ago, Harb had 4 Pub Fleets (2 full, 2 filling) active "

I see the word fact there ... do you? Pretty sure that's your post is it not? Where are your facts? Don't tell me to refer to links pages ago ... show me those links now ... stop being so damn lazy or just don't bother replying and embarrassing yourself further.

do you realize how unreasonable you're being here?

anyone on harbinger can support this. sorry i haven't been cataloguing fleet instance trends in anticipation for forum wars months later when people like yourself will just stomp and whine about "facts" when you have numerous people to support this occurrence.

you're basically denying the moon landing because i wasn't able to provide you gps confirmation that their bodies left the atmosphere.

Facts need context. It is entirely possible that the amount of fleet instances are lower than before. I'm not on that server so I can neither confirm nor deny it. However, the game has changed as well and here's the context. People have more places to be at than before. The fleet is not the place to hang anymore for everyone, particularly when you take into account guild ships. I spent a hell of a lot more time on the guild ship than on the fleet now.

Of course I cannot give any real numbers behind it but it stands to reason that even though there may be fewer fleet instances, it cannot be treated as evidence of fewer players on the server, because we cannot tell how many people are lurking on their guild ships at the same time and how many people are on places like Odessen and Zakuul because of the new content of the current expansions. BW changed direction so it seems a fair assumption that this content appeals to at least a fair number of people.

So all in all, there are fewer people in the fleet, but the reasons why do not automatically mean fewer players playing. It could still be true that there are fewer people playing, I don't have any evidence either way, but what I am saying is that fewer fleet instances are not irrefutable evidence of lower population on the server. That leap they're taking is too far.

and i can reasonably agree with all of this...add in leveling xp bonuses, events etc. plenty of reasons not to be idle in fleet.

that being said, it's still a sign for sure; especially when things normalize at times

Oh come on TUXs ... this is weak by your usual standards ...

This is what you posted.

"Even so...that doesn't change the fact that a year ago, Harb had 4 Pub Fleets (2 full, 2 filling) active "

I see the word fact there ... do you? Pretty sure that's your post is it not? Where are your facts? Don't tell me to refer to links pages ago ... show me those links now ... stop being so damn lazy or just don't bother replying and embarrassing yourself further.

Facts need context. It is entirely possible that the amount of fleet instances are lower than before.

A sign of what though? A sign that people are more spread out? A sign that lots of people stay on the guild ship? Or a sign that the overall population is dropping?