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moosedog
12.28.2011 , 08:19 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Baaddare View Post
In case you have not noticed what you and others actually want is to change your AC. This comes about because as the game stands now you can change your tree inside your AC as often as you want for a fee. What you can not do is change your AC. You feel you need a different spec to pvp with today you just go to the skill mentor pay you fee and it is changed. You a dps who has available a healing tree go see the skill mentor and pay a fee. Thus you must really be asking to change ones AC.
No, what I am asking for is to have 2 specs I can switch between within the advanced class. Like a modern MMO. I don't want to go through the 10 loading screens it takes to go to the fleet pay for a respec, actually respec and then go back(fsm forbid I misplace a point).

Thankfully, according to a questions and answers "AMA" Stephen Reid did today its a possibility- when asked about dual spec- "Dual specs could well come at some point in the future - it's been discussed for sure. Legacy System... will be cool? "

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Jaypea
12.28.2011 , 08:20 PM | #172
Arguing this is pointless on both sides. They already stated dual specs are coming and is high priority. My guess is they will be in the first content patch.

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IceDread
12.28.2011 , 08:35 PM | #173
Dual spec would be handy. It's not often someone wants to heal for instance so few goes with healing as main since healing gives slow pve and perhaps is less fun as well. With dual spec there would be much less waiting and less annoyance with creating groups and raids.

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Sendrel
12.28.2011 , 08:39 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by Sycoskater View Post
Dual spec is a very needed aspect in any MMO. To be able to have 2 specs saves the need to roll an alt
I think that statement may be a little extreme. It certainly has a place in themepark games that are designed for solo leveling. But I could see leaving it out of a game that had forced grouping for leveling. So yeah, it would definitely be a welcome addition to TOR.

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Davudy
12.28.2011 , 08:59 PM | #175
Why doesn't anyone focus on the benefits of duel spec? It allows people who want to heal/tank in instances still be able to do dailies, farm or PvP in another spec. This opens up a huge pool of healers and tanks in a game that right now is suffering from a sever lack of the above. I know that I'd love to heal in Flashpoints but there's no fun in doing your dailies as a healer hoping your companion can someday take down those strong mobs or elites in under 5 minutes.

The only reason I could believe coming out would be the people who have no idea how to or desire to tank or heal and decide not to use those offspecs and getting crap for it from people. That has to be a small portion of the player base, overall quality of life improvements for everyone far outweight that negetive.

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charlemange
12.29.2011 , 08:51 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelrune View Post
Your logic sir, has taken an arrow to the knee.

Duel spec is necessary considering that a large portion of this game is pvp based. Those that claim that there is no need for duel spec obv do not pvp often OR are not skilled in pvp to the point of realizing that pve and pvp require different specs.
I Agree with this 100%

- I play a Shield specialist Vanguard and I tank in PVE/leveling - But in PVP the Tactics Tree is much more viable as the skills are move useful and more fun - so instead of having to go and reset my talent points every time I want to warzone / be able to put up a decent fight with some Sith in an area i'm questing in, I can change my spec casually, to one of 2 pre saved talent specs of my choice.

I can't fathom the people who simply don't understand why this would be useful or how it would ruin the game....

its for convenience, speed and efficiency, no one wants to wait mid raid for a DPS'er to wander off and change to tank spec etc this looses raid momentum....

In game terms think of it as an equipment field change "taking the right tools for the right job" - maybe ask your companion to go of to your ship and bring a backpack of useful goodies.....and it takes 2 ins for them to return.... whatever....

Changing AC I don't agree with. Changing alignment I don't agree with this.....we only ask for a shortcut to pre-configured talent specs inside our given AC.

Dual Specs won't ruin the game, so what if wow had it first, wow had many thing things first (even talent tree's / specs) , if its not broken - don't fix it.

Last note:

The majority people for this seem to be experienced gamers who have played many MMO's vs the other who "seem" less experienced..... we know what we are talking about and we don't want a wow clone, nor to ruin this game....

.....so please give us some credit when we say this is a good idea.

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Kookus
12.29.2011 , 08:54 AM | #177
Please do not add Dual Spec. It dilutes the distinction between the classes, and will only serve to make small groups of players more insular, rather than requiring them to socialize, as the current model does. I believe it is counter to the spirit in which the game was designed.

DECEMBERIST

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TheSwamper
12.29.2011 , 08:54 AM | #178
Please never add dual spec. Or macros.

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Deffin
12.29.2011 , 08:55 AM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by charlemange View Post
I Agree with this 100%

- I play a Shield specialist Vanguard and I tank in PVE/leveling - But in PVP the Tactics Tree is much more viable as the skills are move useful and more fun - so instead of having to go and reset my talent points every time I want to warzone / be able to put up a decent fight with some Sith in an area i'm questing in, I can change my spec casually, to one of 2 pre saved talent specs of my choice.

I can't fathom the people who simply don't understand why this would be useful or how it would ruin the game....

its for convenience, speed and efficiency, no one wants to wait mid raid for a DPS'er to wander off and change to tank spec etc this looses raid momentum....

In game terms think of it as an equipment field change "taking the right tools for the right job" - maybe ask your companion to go of to your ship and bring a backpack of useful goodies.....and it takes 2 ins for them to return.... whatever....

Changing AC I don't agree with. Changing alignment I don't agree with this.....we only ask for a shortcut to pre-configured talent specs inside our given AC.

Dual Specs won't ruin the game, so what if wow had it first, wow had many thing things first (even talent tree's / specs) , if its not broken - don't fix it.

Last note:

The majority people for this seem to be experienced gamers who have played many MMO's vs the other who "seem" less experienced..... we know what we are talking about and we don't want a wow clone, nor to ruin this game....

.....so please give us some credit when we say this is a good idea.
If you really wanted to PvP then you would put forth the effort to go PvP spec and respec. Not just press a button.

It's called not being lazy.

MMOs have been flooded with casuals who want everything easymode.

Is it easier? Yes it is. I had dual-spec in WoW. But if I want to DPS instead of heal or play a PvP healspec, why shouldn't I have to go change my spec at the trainer? Because that isn't convenient? Quit trying to make the game easier, I mean you have a FLEETPASS which you can go to the fleet and respec.

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ValarM
12.29.2011 , 05:01 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Deffin View Post
Quit trying to make the game easier, I mean you have a FLEETPASS which you can go to the fleet and respec.
And exactly is gained by making people fly halfway across the galaxy to respec? All it adds is tedium. At least, I can't imagine thinking to myself "Boy am I glad I had to go through 3 loading screens to respec at my trainer- sooo much more fun than just clicking a button on my UI".

I can live without dual spec if I have to, and I understand it takes time to implement this kind of stuff, but the arguments against it are just silly. Why would you choose to add more hassle to your game (that you play for fun?)