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Why is Bioware so much more willing to kill Imperial characters?

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Why is Bioware so much more willing to kill Imperial characters?

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SerraShar
12.31.2015 , 08:46 AM | #11
Imp are the bad guys , whats wrong with killing the bad guys ? sheesh

And Satele is Immortal

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Excise
12.31.2015 , 08:56 AM | #12
Classic SWTOR Revan would definitely have to count. Pubbies go through two large Flashpoints to free him and as far as they're concerned he's definitely on their side, only to be off'd by Imps shortly thereafter.
[[The real Revan wouldn't go crazy and kill the Emperor with an insane ceremony. The real Revan would get smashed on stims until his eyeballs bled, abuse the insane pathing AI, and reload the instant something went wrong. He would be unstoppable.]]

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drakensang
12.31.2015 , 09:23 AM | #13
It is pure propaganda. Just because the empire makes use of its right of free speech and free wars of aggression to promote inequality, slavery and oppression, they are somehow portrayed as the bad guys and can be killed in greater numbers. It is this darned democratic agenda again.

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Excise
12.31.2015 , 09:26 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by drakensang View Post
It is pure propaganda. Just because the empire makes use of its right of free speech and free wars of aggression to promote inequality, slavery and oppression, they are somehow portrayed as the bad guys and can be killed in greater numbers. It is this darned democratic agenda again.
Hah, nice.
[[The real Revan wouldn't go crazy and kill the Emperor with an insane ceremony. The real Revan would get smashed on stims until his eyeballs bled, abuse the insane pathing AI, and reload the instant something went wrong. He would be unstoppable.]]

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BlazeTomahawk
12.31.2015 , 11:30 AM | #15
y'all realize that the empire loses, right?

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adormitul
12.31.2015 , 12:04 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by BlazeTomahawk View Post
y'all realize that the empire loses, right?
In about 4000 years.

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BlazeTomahawk
12.31.2015 , 12:46 PM | #17
No, much sooner than than. It's only about 3300 til the original trilogy, the republic reigns supreme and most people have never even heard of the Sith.

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Roccobb
12.31.2015 , 02:02 PM | #18
It is because you chose the losing side. The dark side of the force is good for short term power. However, to be strong in the long run means turning away from the dark side, and the things it represents. Anger is not a winning poker hand.

Although it is a lot more fun to go through story quests on my dark side characters. Something just feels right about accepting the power that accepting anger brings.
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-Marauder-
12.31.2015 , 02:13 PM | #19
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Which Republic characters do you want to kill? Is it basically "just Satele"? Because she's the only important Jedi NPC left in the story at this point.
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There's quite a few more that are featured in Flashpoints and such, most of the losses you name happen during THE REPUBLIC STORIES, they're not killed by the Imperial players who never meet them and mostly only during dark side choices which are unlikely to have been taken. This is therefore a non argument.

Satele is just the most glaring example. She's been the counter part of !3! Imperial characters, all three wind up dead, Marr even completely unnecessary. Two of them are killed by the Republic, one is pretty celebrated as big victory (Kilran).

If they weren't willing to kill of Satele to tell the same story for the Imp side, they shouldn't have used her at all these time, or they should stop killing off any Imperial char players get attached to and invested in to pander to the Republic side or for no reason at all.
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Other major Republic characters are a mix of non-combatants, military generals and spies who are much less likely to end up as a boss fight in a mission or flashpoint. The Empire happens to be led by Sith, and it's nobody's fault but their own that they're so prone to committing suicide by hero.
Kilran was Grand Moff, he had no business being there in person either, it happened anyway. The rest is just defending Biowares story writing, nothing happens because "Sith and Jedi", it happens because Bioware decides it happens that way and they're at least story wise up untill KOTFE extremly biased towards one side.

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The Republic only killed a few Dark Councillors, though. Several of them were killed by their own side (and there are a bunch we're not sure are dead).
The Republic kills characters the Imperial side got to know and worked with all the damn time, Malgus, Kilran, Darth Lachris etc. These were people which were part of BOTH SIDES stories, not exclusive to one side. Having nearly finished Rep side now, I can't remember a single high profile NPC I worked with and grew attached to that I got to kill on an Imp char.

If any of them die, they do so during the Republic stories, not as feel good fodder for the Imperials.

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y'all realize that the empire loses, right?
That has what to do with this? If anything the fact that the Empire eventually dissolves makes casting them as the weaker side that constantly loses all that much LESS anticlimatic. It turns from a story of two equal sides clashing, or the mighty evil Empire eventually being toppled to the side we all know will end up winning just kicking the underdog till it finally dies.

It also doesn't explain why they don't go through the effort of building up chars the way they did build up Kilran, Malgus etc just to kill them off and why all chars the Imperials get to kill are specifically conjured up for them and never shown at all on Republic side, while the Republic gets to kill chars the Imperial side has interacted with and got to known for quite some time.

Satele is just the most egrious example, she should've died by all accounts long ago, struck down by the Imperial players. Her role in some flashpoints as antagonist becomes just irritating and annoying seen how you never to to shove her own words down her throat, unlike Kilran who gets killed off summarily.

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psandak
12.31.2015 , 02:20 PM | #20
But, -Marauder-...

Any Sith worth his/her salt would never get attached to those NPCs in power... They would want to kill those NPCs and take their place

Bounty Hunters should care less about who's in charge so long as they are getting paid

And the Imperial Agent...
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